Anyone see the new Rolling Stone's top 100 singers?

polishdog90polishdog90 Road Warrior
edited December 2008 in History of Rock
Article: http://www.rollingstone.com/news/coverstory/24161972

It's an alright list imo. They actually rated based on influence so a lot of older singers (from Genres outside of rock) are in that wouldn't normally be included on these lists. I still don't think that John Lennon and Bob Dylan deserve top 10.

Edit:
Btw if you don't have the magazine, the list was compiled by having like 40 singers and 40 people in the music industry (Producers, talent scouts, execs, journalists, etc) pick their top 20 favorite singers. And then they sent the results to some professional counting company and had them determine the top 100.

Also if you notice a lot of the articles are written by the voting musicians.

The musicians include:
Sebastion Bach
Ginger Baker (cream)
James Blunt
Bob Bogle (The Ventures
Steve Boone (The Lovin' Spoonful)
Jerome Brailey (Funkadelic)
Brandy
Eric Burdon (The Animals)
Clem Burke (Blonde)
Solomon Burke
Danger Mouse (Gnarls Barkley)
Mike Campbell (Tom Petty)
Felix Cavaliere (The Rascals)
Martain Chambers (The Pretenders)
Dave Clark (The Dave Clark Five)
Alice Cooper
Chris Cornell
Steve Cropper (Booker T and the MG's)
David Crosby
Jimmy Destri (Blonde)
Dion DiMucci
Ronnie James Dio
Dr.John
Steve Earle
Melissa Etheridge
Mick Fleetwood
Chris Frantz (Talking Heads)
Liam Gallager (Oasis)
Richie Furay (The Buffalo Springfield)
Art Garfunkel
Beth Gibbons (Portishead)
Billy Gibbons (ZZ Top)
Sam Gooden (The Impressions
Sammy Hagar
Merle Haggard
Daryl Hall
Albert Jammond Jr. (The Strokes)
James Hetfield (Metallica)
Toots Hibbert
Bruce Hornsby
Ian Hunter (Mott the Hoople)
James Hunter
Tony Iommi (Black Sabbath)
Chris Isaak
Yusuf Islam
Etta James
Jim James (My Morning Jacket)
Al Jardine (The Beach Boys)
Chris Jasper (The Isley Brothers)
Billy Joel
Norah Jones
Rickie Lee Jones
Booker T. Jones (Booker T and the MG's)
Lenny Kaye (Patty Smith Group)
Maynard James Keenan (Tool)
Alicia Keys
B.B. King
Ben E. King
Carole King
Lenny Kravitz
Robby Kreiger (The Doors)
Simon Le Bon (Duran Duran)
Amy Lee (Evanescence)
Brenda Lee
Geddy Lee (Rush)
Courtney Love
Darlene Love
Mike Love (The Beach Boys)
Stan Lynch (Tom Petty)
Loretta Lynn
Shelby Lynne
Ray Manzarek (The Doors)
Chris Martin (Coldplay)
Dave Mason (Traffic)
Roger McGuinn (The Byrds)
John Mellencamp
James Mercer (The Shins)
George Michael
Bette Midler
Mike Mills (REM)
Sam Moore (Sam and Dave)
Scotty Moore (Elvis Presley)
Graham Nash
Sinead O'Connor
Yoko Ono
Ozzy Osbourne
Michelle Phillips (The Mamas and the Papas)
Iggy Pop
Marky Ramone (The Ramones)
Martha Reeves (Martha and the Vandellas)
Keith Richards
Robie Robertson
Chris Robinson (The Black Crowes)
Carlos Santana
Boz Scaggs
Kill Scott
Bob Seger
Patti Smith
Ronnie Spector (The Ronnetes)
Bruce Springsteen
Mavis Staples
Ringo Starr
Crhis Stein (Blodnie)
Rod Stewart
Stephen Stills
Benmont Tench (Tom Petty)
Justin Timberlake
Butch Trucks (Allman Brothers)
Carrie Underwood
Steven Van Zandt
Roger Waters
Scott Weiland
Mary Weiss
Paul Westerberg (The Replacements)
Ann Wilson (Heart)
Nancy Wilson
Brian Wilson
Mary Wilson (The Supremes
Peter Wolf

Comments

  • instantdeath999instantdeath999 Washed Up
    edited November 2008
    I personally agree with John Lennon being so high. He may not be as technical of a singer as Paul, but I prefer him by a lot. He could make the oddest songs work well (I am the Walrus, Glass Onion), and also had the capability to sing very serious songs.

    Of course, I guess I'm biased, since I've always loved John's voice.
  • Rockbandfan23467Rockbandfan23467 Headliner
    edited November 2008
    Bob Dylan is a terrible singer. Lennon is great, but he's not top 10.
  • instantdeath999instantdeath999 Washed Up
    edited November 2008
    Well, Bob Dylan is "technically" terrible, but the fact that he's gone on for so long with an average voice, and can write music that complements his voice, definitely earns him a spot IMO. I don't know about top 10, though.
  • thedoorsdkthedoorsdk Road Warrior
    edited November 2008
    I was just looking at this today.
    I did not expect Aretha Franklin to be in the top spot. She's a hell of a singer, but I was completely caught off guard. I expected Dylan to be in the top spot (even though I don't agree with it and can't stand him, RS has a giant hard-on for him).

    Picking the "Best Singer" is even more asinine than picking the best guitar player; are you judging on technical skill? Showmanship? Honesty and emotion? Too many factors to even begin to compare.
  • instantdeath999instantdeath999 Washed Up
    edited November 2008
    thedoorsdk;1582358 said:


    Picking the "Best Singer" is even more asinine than picking the best guitar player; are you judging on technical skill? Showmanship? Honesty and emotion? Too many factors to even begin to compare.
    Exactly why I take this list with a grain of salt.
  • afterstasisafterstasis Washed Up
    edited November 2008
    i agree that picking "favorite singers" is incredibly difficult and probably just as personal as "favorite songwriters".

    though dylan's not one of my favorites, most of mine are indeed singers who are typically considered technically bad and regularly out of tune.
  • Rockbandfan23467Rockbandfan23467 Headliner
    edited November 2008
    thedoorsdk;1582358 said:
    I was just looking at this today.
    I did not expect Aretha Franklin to be in the top spot. She's a hell of a singer, but I was completely caught off guard. I expected Dylan to be in the top spot (even though I don't agree with it and can't stand him, RS has a giant hard-on for him).
    Rolling Stone also has a hard-on for Mick Jagger and Bruce Springsteen. They seem to have a hard-off for Prog and Metal though. :(
  • ZeleiiZeleii Banned
    edited November 2008
    Wait...

    Christina Aguelera was placed higher.... than Roger Daltrey... What the ****ing hell!?
  • afterstasisafterstasis Washed Up
    edited November 2008
    Zeleii;1582397 said:
    Wait...

    Christina Aguelera was placed higher.... than Roger Daltrey... What the ****ing hell!?
    it's not everyday you see a singing praying mantis.
  • instantdeath999instantdeath999 Washed Up
    edited November 2008
    Zeleii;1582397 said:
    Wait...

    Christina Aguelera was placed higher.... than Roger Daltrey... What the ****ing hell!?
    Say what?!
  • Julio_Strikes_BackJulio_Strikes_Back Headliner
    edited November 2008
    I have to agree with that placement. After the Who Are You album Daltrey just grunted his way through songs.

    But where the hell is Eddie Vedder?
  • instantdeath999instantdeath999 Washed Up
    edited November 2008
    Julio_Strikes_Back;1582426 said:
    I have to agree with that placement. After the Who Are You album Daltrey just grunted his way through songs.

    I won't disagree that Daltrey faltered after Who Are You... but that's still 13 years of great vocal performances (from My Generation to Who Are You). That is longer than Christina Aguilerra (spelling is way off) has even been recording music.
  • RunesmithRunesmith Headliner
    edited November 2008
    The inclusion of Annie Lennox, Bjork, and Morrissey automatically makes the list respectable to me.

    It's a pretty decent list, personally, but I think RS played it too safe this time around. There's very little controversy here.

    Well, except for the lack of Michael Stipe, Ian Curtis, and Elton John. :(
  • ZeleiiZeleii Banned
    edited November 2008
    Runesmith;1582448 said:
    The inclusion of Annie Lennox, Bjork, and Morrissey automatically makes the list respectable to me.

    It's a pretty decent list, personally, but I think RS played it too safe this time around. There's very little controversy here.

    Well, except for the lack of Michael Stipe, Ian Curtis, and Elton John. :(
    Elton is in there ranked 30 - 35... lower than Bono
  • back_blowsback_blows Washed Up
    edited November 2008
    I don't agree with the majority of this list, but I do realize how subjective it is.
  • Julio_Strikes_BackJulio_Strikes_Back Headliner
    edited November 2008
    instantdeath999;1582444 said:
    I won't disagree that Daltrey faltered after Who Are You... but that's still 13 years of great vocal performances (from My Generation to Who Are You). That is longer than Christina Aguilerra (spelling is way off) has even been recording music.
    Fair enough. But Cristina has been progressively better music through the years. I expect she'll make something great soon.
  • RunesmithRunesmith Headliner
    edited November 2008
    Zeleii;1582461 said:
    Elton is in there ranked 30 - 35... lower than Bono
    Ooh, your right; he's 38. I missed it. That's a respectable number.
  • OldFogeyOldFogey Road Warrior
    edited November 2008
    Well it's not the worst list in the world. Stevie Winwood at 33 is just lame, though. Glad to see Roy Orbison relatively high, but for him not to be in the top 5 is pretty sad.

    It's obviously not a list put together by anybody who knows much about vocal technique, though.

    I didn't go through the whole thing -- I hate this whole going one by one thing. I just wanna see the whole list. We had two Beatles way high on the list, but I didn't see anyone from the greatest vocal group in Rock history -- the Beach Boys. Did anyone make the list? Carl Wilson definitely should have, just for the vocals on God Only Knows and Good Vibrations. And he could do great R&B too, check out Darlin' if you don't know the tune.
  • instantdeath999instantdeath999 Washed Up
    edited November 2008
    Julio_Strikes_Back;1582468 said:
    Fair enough. But Cristina has been progressively better music through the years. I expect she'll make something great soon.
    Possibly, though I'm a bit biased, since I've always hated her music :)

    Though to be fair, Daltrey's vocal ability progressively improved until the death of Moon, IMO.
  • Xaris3514Xaris3514 Opening Act
    edited November 2008
    Rockbandfan23467;1582380 said:
    They seem to have a hard-off for Prog and Metal though. :(
    Darn, someone beat to this one.
  • instantdeath999instantdeath999 Washed Up
    edited November 2008
    I find Rolling Stone to be incredibly hypocritical. They only like what has already been accepted (bands at least a couple of years old), yet never give anything new a shot.

    I have a perfect example. Black Sabbath's debut got a terrible review from Rolling Stone. At least 20 years ago, the same album was put on their "Top 500 albums of all time". :rolleyes:

    I also believe they gave Iron Maiden's Number of the Beast a bad review, though I'm not sure.

    I guess the newer editors had something to do with it.
  • Julio_Strikes_BackJulio_Strikes_Back Headliner
    edited November 2008
    They trashed Number of the Beast, all of AC/DC's early albums, and all of Led Zeppelin's early albums.
  • instantdeath999instantdeath999 Washed Up
    edited November 2008
    Julio_Strikes_Back;1582662 said:
    They trashed Number of the Beast, all of AC/DC's early albums, and all of Led Zeppelin's early albums.
    Weren't over half of the Led Zeppelin albums on their greatest album list?
  • Rockbandfan23467Rockbandfan23467 Headliner
    edited November 2008
    Here's the list, for the lazy:

    1 | Aretha Franklin

    2 | Ray Charles

    3 | Elvis Presley

    4 | Sam Cooke

    5 | John Lennon

    6 | Marvin Gaye

    7 | Bob Dylan

    8 | Otis Redding

    9 | Stevie Wonder

    10 | James Brown

    11 | Paul McCartney

    12 | Little Richard

    13 | Roy Orbison

    14 | Al Green

    15 | Robert Plant

    16 | Mick Jagger

    17 | Tina Turner

    18 | Freddie Mercury

    19 | Bob Marley

    20 | Smokey Robinson

    21 | Johnny Cash

    22 | Etta James

    23 | David Bowie

    24 | Van Morrison

    25 | Michael Jackson

    26 | Jackie Wilson

    27 | Hank Williams

    28 | Janis Joplin

    29 | Nina Simone

    30 | Prince

    31 | Howlin' Wolf

    32 | Bono

    33 | Steve Winwood

    34 | Whitney Houston

    35 | Dusty Springfield

    36 | Bruce Springsteen

    37 | Neil Young

    38 | Elton John

    39 | Jeff Buckley

    40 | Curtis Mayfield

    41 | Chuck Berry

    42 | Joni Mitchell

    43 | George Jones

    44 | Bobby "Blue" Bland

    45 | Kurt Cobain

    46 | Patsy Cline

    47 | Jim Morrison

    48 | Buddy Holly

    49 | Donny Hathaway

    50 | Bonnie Raitt

    51 | Gladys Knight

    52 | Brian Wilson

    53 | Muddy Waters

    54 | Luther Vandross

    55 | Paul Rodgers

    56 | Mavis Staples

    57 | Eric Burdon

    58 | Christina Aguilera

    59 | Rod Stewart

    60 | Björk

    61 | Roger Daltrey

    62 | Lou Reed

    63 | Dion

    64 | Axl Rose

    65 | David Ruffin

    66 | Thom Yorke

    67 | Jerry Lee Lewis

    68 | Wilson Pickett

    69 | Ronnie Spector

    70 | Gregg Allman

    71 | Toots HIbbert

    72 | John Fogerty

    73 | Dolly Parton

    74 | James Taylor

    75 | Iggy Pop

    76 | Steve Perry

    77 | Merle Haggard

    78 | Sly Stone

    79 | Mariah Carey

    80 | Frankie Valli

    81 | John Lee Hooker

    82 | Tom Waits

    83 | Patti Smith

    84 | Darlene Love

    85 | Sam Moore

    86 | Art Garfunkel

    87 | Don Henley

    88 | Willie Nelson

    89 | Solomon Burke

    90 | The Everly Brothers

    91 | Levon Helm

    92 | Morrissey

    93 | Annie Lennox

    94 | Karen Carpenter

    95 | Patti LaBelle

    96 | B.B. King

    97 | Joe Cocker

    98 | Stevie Nicks

    99 | Steven Tyler

    100 | Mary J. Blige
  • xX_Sandman_XxxX_Sandman_Xx Road Warrior
    edited November 2008
    Axl Rose is #64
  • polishdog90polishdog90 Road Warrior
    edited November 2008
    Btw if you don't have the magazine, the list was compiled by having like 40 singers and 40 people in the music industry (Producers, talent scouts, execs, journalists, etc) pick their top 20 favorite singers. And then they sent the results to some professional counting company and had them determine the top 100.

    Also if you notice a lot of the articles are written by the voting musicians.

    The musicians include:
    Sebastion Bach
    Ginger Baker (cream)
    James Blunt
    Bob Bogle (The Ventures
    Steve Boone (The Lovin' Spoonful)
    Jerome Brailey (Funkadelic)
    Brandy
    Eric Burdon (The Animals)
    Clem Burke (Blonde)
    Solomon Burke
    Danger Mouse (Gnarls Barkley)
    Mike Campbell (Tom Petty)
    Felix Cavaliere (The Rascals)
    Martain Chambers (The Pretenders)
    Dave Clark (The Dave Clark Five)
    Alice Cooper
    Chris Cornell
    Steve Cropper (Booker T and the MG's)
    David Crosby
    Jimmy Destri (Blonde)
    Dion DiMucci
    Ronnie James Dio
    Dr.John
    Steve Earle
    Melissa Etheridge
    Mick Fleetwood
    Chris Frantz (Talking Heads)
    Liam Gallager (Oasis)
    Richie Furay (The Buffalo Springfield)
    Art Garfunkel
    Beth Gibbons (Portishead)
    Billy Gibbons (ZZ Top)
    Sam Gooden (The Impressions
    Sammy Hagar
    Merle Haggard
    Daryl Hall
    Albert Jammond Jr. (The Strokes)
    James Hetfield (Metallica)
    Toots Hibbert
    Bruce Hornsby
    Ian Hunter (Mott the Hoople)
    James Hunter
    Tony Iommi (Black Sabbath)
    Chris Isaak
    Yusuf Islam
    Etta James
    Jim James (My Morning Jacket)
    Al Jardine (The Beach Boys)
    Chris Jasper (The Isley Brothers)
    Billy Joel
    Norah Jones
    Rickie Lee Jones
    Booker T. Jones (Booker T and the MG's)
    Lenny Kaye (Patty Smith Group)
    Maynard James Keenan (Tool)
    Alicia Keys
    B.B. King
    Ben E. King
    Carole King
    Lenny Kravitz
    Robby Kreiger (The Doors)
    Simon Le Bon (Duran Duran)
    Amy Lee (Evanescence)
    Brenda Lee
    Geddy Lee (Rush)
    Courtney Love
    Darlene Love
    Mike Love (The Beach Boys)
    Stan Lynch (Tom Petty)
    Loretta Lynn
    Shelby Lynne
    Ray Manzarek (The Doors)
    Chris Martin (Coldplay)
    Dave Mason (Traffic)
    Roger McGuinn (The Byrds)
    John Mellencamp
    James Mercer (The Shins)
    George Michael
    Bette Midler
    Mike Mills (REM)
    Sam Moore (Sam and Dave)
    Scotty Moore (Elvis Presley)
    Graham Nash
    Sinead O'Connor
    Yoko Ono
    Ozzy Osbourne
    Michelle Phillips (The Mamas and the Papas)
    Iggy Pop
    Marky Ramone (The Ramones)
    Martha Reeves (Martha and the Vandellas)
    Keith Richards
    Robie Robertson
    Chris Robinson (The Black Crowes)
    Carlos Santana
    Boz Scaggs
    Kill Scott
    Bob Seger
    Patti Smith
    Ronnie Spector (The Ronnetes)
    Bruce Springsteen
    Mavis Staples
    Ringo Starr
    Crhis Stein (Blodnie)
    Rod Stewart
    Stephen Stills
    Benmont Tench (Tom Petty)
    Justin Timberlake
    Butch Trucks (Allman Brothers)
    Carrie Underwood
    Steven Van Zandt
    Roger Waters
    Scott Weiland
    Mary Weiss
    Paul Westerberg (The Replacements)
    Ann Wilson (Heart)
    Nancy Wilson
    Brian Wilson
    Mary Wilson (The Supremes
    Pqeter Wolf
  • Julio_Strikes_BackJulio_Strikes_Back Headliner
    edited November 2008
    instantdeath999;1582723 said:
    Weren't over half of the Led Zeppelin albums on their greatest album list?
    Yes. That's why they were hypocrites. The completely trashed their first few albums on release but praised them decades later. Same for AC/DC.
  • Chief StubbsChief Stubbs Road Warrior
    edited November 2008
    The picture for Gregg Allman scares the hell outta me.
  • krispykreme420krispykreme420 Unsigned
    edited November 2008
    Rockbandfan23467;1582166 said:
    Bob Dylan is a terrible singer. Lennon is great, but he's not top 10.
    man right now i wanna say u made me very disgusted with what you just said. BOB DYLAN a TERRIBLE SINGER? I think you need a lesson in good music lol.
  • Rockbandfan23467Rockbandfan23467 Headliner
    edited November 2008
    Julio_Strikes_Back;1583769 said:
    Yes. That's why they were hypocrites. The completely trashed their first few albums on release but praised them decades later. Same for AC/DC.
    So a guy's a hypocrite for changeing his opinion?
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