ssijay;2160398 said:http://viewmorepics.myspace.com/inde...ageID=14865972.I noticed in ur pic the tv is mounted on a stand.What stand is that?Also, how did you mount the tv for the drummer?What hardware did you use and where did you find them?Thanx in advance.
Ravaana;2158863 said:OIWe do the same thing here in Austin at Elysium on Tuesdays.It has been pretty fun, and so far has worked out. As for our setup we have,2 Wireless guitars, Wired RB mic (since someone broke one of our other mics, went back to el cheapo)1 Wireless Drum kit (RB2/ debating on Ion, setup)2 Projectors, one behind stage and one slightly off center near stage right.We use the Xbox 360 well because it is cheaper than the PS3.2 DJs for entertainment between song selection,About 4-5 "House musicians" to fill in if a full band cannot be located for a person.well over 400 songs and a constantly updated set of lists organized by song, band, and recent additions. most other info can be found here http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=111714
Zoologico;2163943 said:I noticed you mentioned you had a couple of bugs to work out.Can you share what they were?
LiquidKourage;2167782 said:Technically speaking, yes. Bars pay karaoke companies, who in turn play karaoke tracks. However, the bar is paying for the time of the host, the sound equipment, marketing, promotions, and a lot of other things than the karaoke tracks themselves. The karaoke company purchases the tracks, which have been licensed and rerecorded by the manufacturer, and uses them in the fair, legal, and intended use of the product. Where does the original artist get their compensation? Both from the karaoke manufacturer and from the bar itself, which is typically pays annual fees to a group called ASCAP whose purpose is to handle collecting royalty fees for public performances of non-public domain music. Most any bar that hires bands, DJs, karaoke companies, or even owns a jukebox, pays an annual fee to ASCAP for a blanket license.That all being said, it does not violate any legal rights that I am aware of to provide Rock Band in a public setting. Just to be safe, it is an understanding I have with my venues that the fee I charge does NOT include my Rock Band services; technically, I do not get paid to offer Rock Band. Instead, I am paid for my time, sound equipment, expertise, marketing/promotions, and everything else that comes into hosting a karaoke show. I just happen to also offer Rock Band at my shows.I do agree with Klubby that based on my limited knowledge, charging people directly to perform Rock Band tracks would be a violation of the agreement implicit upon purchase of Rock Band. The only way I can see a tournament with an entry fee being legal would be if it was a charitable event (with proceeds going to the charity, of course) or if any fees charged went directly and exclusively to the execution of the competition i.e. prizes, compensation for hosts/judges etc., and other vital tournament expenses. If you were to, as you say, take "a little something for yours truly", you need to be able to justify any money you take, be it in consultation fee or something similar.But that's just my 2 cents.
RockBandLosAngeles;2168682 said: If you are going to do this seriously, you need to be using the Xbox system. It just is a better relationship between microsoft and harmonix.
LiquidKourage;2169409 said:Not trying to start a console war by any means. Let me change the subject to something I'd like other hosts to chime in on. What is your opinion on drums? Do you run a standard RB/RB2 drum set, IONs, or some sort of modified system? What made you make your decision?I run old-school RB1 drums. I own an RB2 set, but I noticed (and maybe I had a bad set, or maybe it's because it was a launch day model...) that the wireless nature of the drums would cause the occasional dropped hit. As a hardcore drummer, that REALLY irritated me, so I went back to the tried-and-true QM set. However now, I'm getting an ION set in a week or so, and I'm trying to decide if I start using it for show use. My concerns are about damage, setup time, and ease of transport. What does everyone else think?
How many of you are going to say; "This is ROCK Band, NOT BLUES Band!" When Harmonix releases Texas Flood?
As for rotation, here is the way I am planning to do it... if someone has a better idea or knowledge they wanna share, I am all ears (eyes?)...I will have forms on all the tables. When we start the everning, I will ask everyone who wants to participate to give their form. I am planning to do a per table form. So if for exemple a table has 3 people and they all want to play, they fill in what instrument (or vocal) they want and the difficulty level they want for each. I will have a basic explanation on how to play and select difficulty levels as the first page of the song guide that will be on each table. The way I plan to do it is if there is 1 or 2 person at the table, they can play 1 song. If there are 3 or 4 they can play a 2 song set. If there are open positions for the song(s) I will ask if someone wants to fill the vacant spot in the band. Once every form has been played, I will start a second round for participation.
RockBandLosAngeles;2170635 said:I just acquired the ION kit this week and am going to put that monster together in my living room today, but there is no way I would take that kit, or my Omega pedal, into a bar with a bunch of drunks.
RockBandLosAngeles;2170635 said:I have maybe two serious RB drummers in the 3 bars I do this in, and they get frustrated because they don't score as well as they do at home, but I think this is mostly due to the nature of the venue.
Calendyr;2173873 said:The items like an Ion Drum will come last. I too am worried about people damaging it and will wait until I have everything else to add this.
Calendyr;2173873 said:Silencers for drums seems like a must have.
Calendyr;2173873 said:Have you guys ever have people break the drumming sticks?
Calendyr;2173873 said:Should I get a spare set?
Calendyr;2173873 said:What do you guys suggest for lighting? I want something cheap to start with. Are the lighting frames expensive? Someone who posted a picture was using one. I can't afford professionnal lighting to start with, I know these lamps cost an arm and a leg. I was thinking of grabbing cheap flood lights at home depot or something. If I put lamps that are not too bright in them, I could have a few... say 4 or 5 of them light the stage and we could dim the light in the room a lot. Would you use color gels to change the lamp colors? Later on I will get lights that sync with the music and maybe strobe lights. Since I can't go with the stage kit, I know this will be a bit more expensive. I did not want to use a fog machine anyway.
LiquidKourage;2174110 said:Which brings me to a topic I'd like up for discussion: rotation and fairness. Coming from my background, I feel that setting up a fair system for everyone to have equal opportunities to perform is very important. With karaoke, it's pretty simple. You set up "rounds" where each person who signs up has a chance to perform once. After everyone gets to perform, you start another round, keeping the same order and adding new people in as you go. With the multiplayer nature of Rock Band though, that method doesn't translate all that well. Anyone have any thoughts here?
Calendyr;2180180 said:I also get a feeling from the comments that there might be more singers than other instruments players. I was expecting the exact opposite. Do you think the type of marketing you do might be affecting this? What I mean by that is that most gamers are not really interested in singing. In my experience everyone want to play the guitar or the base. I have friends who are drummers so that is not much of an issue although some still prefer the guitar because it's hard for them to drum the songs incorrectly (instead of playing them like they know it should be done, they have to follow the notes on the screen)... And we always end up having someone singing just to fill up the group. We do rotations on instruments because no one wants to sing all the time or be on the drums all the time. Maybe my experience is not the norm, I don't know. But I think that if marketing is aimed mostly at gamers, we will have many guitar players and if marketing is aimed at the Karaoke crowd, we will have mostly singers... what do you guys think?