Official Discussion - Rock Band Network

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  • TheLovelyNoiseTheLovelyNoise Rising Star
    edited July 2009
    Is the $100/yr. fee for browsing/downloading tracks? Or is that fee just for people that want to get their particular music into the game?
  • hammy7971hammy7971 Opening Act
    edited July 2009
    HMXEnosity;2730135 said:
    Billboard states in their article that indie label, Sub Pop is already on board.
    Which means we could be seeing Band of Horses, The Shins, The Postal Service, Iron and Wine, Handsome Furs, L7, The Elected, Ugly Casanova, Nirvana, Fleet Foxes, Flight of the Conchords, Wolf Parade, The Jesus and Mary Chain, Rogue Wave, Soundgarden, etc. DLC coming out. That seems pretty exciting to me.
  • kingtonyxkingtonyx Unofficial
    edited July 2009
    TheLovelyNoise;2730215 said:
    Is the $100/yr. fee for browsing/downloading tracks? Or is that fee just for people that want to get their particular music into the game?
    the fee is for authors
  • edited July 2009
    ajistheman;2730125 said:
    hmxsean, harmonix will still be releasing the same amount of songs themselves right? Every song you guys make can be made just as good (theoretically, probably not always) by the labels/musicians/whoever has the masters as the tracks you guys make? Correct?

    The Rock Band Music Store will not see a drop in weekly output due to the Rock Band Network. They are separate entities.

    2nd question - Answer: Yes.
  • KidmittKidmitt Rising Star
    edited July 2009
    TheLovelyNoise;2730215 said:
    Is the $100/yr. fee for browsing/downloading tracks? Or is that fee just for people that want to get their particular music into the game?
    That's the fee for using tools to make songs, not for playing them.
  • TheLovelyNoiseTheLovelyNoise Rising Star
    edited July 2009
    kingtonyx;2730223 said:
    the fee is for authors
    thanks
  • Musicfreak82515Musicfreak82515 Road Warrior
    edited July 2009
    TheLovelyNoise;2730215 said:
    Is the $100/yr. fee for browsing/downloading tracks? Or is that fee just for people that want to get their particular music into the game?
    It's for those who want to put their music into the game. Therefore, any up-and-coming band or even someone major (like LZ) only has to pay that fee. If they do well, the profits will have them consider about renewing.

    EDIT: Dammit, Ninja'd
  • rad5brandonrad5brandon Opening Act
    edited July 2009
    metalfenix;2730205 said:
    Yeah, this project relies heavily on the XNA platform...sony should do something like this. I have no means to change to 360 right now (I have the system, but...I have all my instruments + 64 DLC songs + RB1 songs + PSN Contacts to play in PS3). Buying two copies of RB2 don't do me any good either... :(

    Ah well, congrats 360 RB'ers
    Hey don't feel bad, Harmonix is working to bring these songs to the PS3 and Wii, maybe it can just come down to copy and pasting these songs.
  • HeyRilesHeyRiles Besse's Girl
    edited July 2009
    I'll express my concerns here as well
    HeyRiles;2730146 said:
    My only concern is the potential drop in aesthetic changes as well as chart quality

    The lighting and transitions during a song as well as character animation is stellar in songs released normally. But will songs released through the RBN be able to hold a candle up to the regular lighting and graphics? I'm just worried about a considerable drop in quality between the two stores
    HeyRiles;2730213 said:
    But my concern is this

    I like, say, Senses Fail quite a bit. Their record company gets their hands on these tools and develops a number of their songs. A part of the game that makes it so appealing is its aesthetics. For example, I love Assassain but it just wasn't any fun in Guitar Hero. Without this aesthetic goodness, I'm pretty worried I would buy it but not enjoy it, and end up wasting money on poor quality

    THEN, since they are already in the RBN, there isn't any need for Harmonix to take the songs and develop them themselves for inclusion into the main music store. Basically the band that I really enjoy has been locked out of getting great stuff into Rock Band and being developed by official Rock Band developers
  • metalhead27metalhead27 Road Warrior
    edited July 2009
    This sounds... amazing :eek:... unfortunately I'm a PS3 user. :( Still, it will be interesting to see how this works out.
  • KidmittKidmitt Rising Star
    edited July 2009
    C-Weiner;2730196 said:
    I love that we really trumped guitar hero
    I really don't think the bulk of the GH community cares.
  • kingtonyxkingtonyx Unofficial
    edited July 2009
    I just hope that too many bands/labels don't go over the normal $2 cost

    I assume I'd be looking at labels to do that, I can see bands going for lower prices and more downloads
  • TheLovelyNoiseTheLovelyNoise Rising Star
    edited July 2009
    So there is no reason to believe the tracks wouldn't be up in the Ps3 or Wii stores even if we can't use the editing program then ya?
  • Planswalker89Planswalker89 Unsigned
    edited July 2009
    Sounds awesome, HMX. I was surprised in the first article when you said you were hoping to move it to us Wii users too... though I'm expecting that to not happen for a long while (if ever... I know the Wii's pretty different from the other two consoles when it comes to DLC issues). Either way this sounds like an awesome idea and I'll be eagerly waiting for updates on this!
  • logicalnoiselogicalnoise Road Warrior
    edited July 2009
    way to go HMX you guys f'n rock. I'm already working out ways to get my music on there(considering I'm a techno artist I may have to go industrial).
  • skyttskyttskyttskytt Headliner
    edited July 2009
    rad5brandon;2730235 said:
    Hey don't feel bad, Harmonix is working to bring these songs to the PS3 and Wii, maybe it can just come down to copy and pasting these songs.
    There's a reason the Wii has to play the back catalog catch-up game right now, and that's because it's not as simple as copy/paste. I just hope everything will eventually get ported over, not just the "popular" stuff. I'd hate to be (or have anyone else) denied a favorite band simply because people on the 360 didn't buy it all to hell.
  • chumsicleschumsicles Road Warrior
    edited July 2009
    Hmm. People who aren't HMX will be able to chart their own songs? Interesting.


    I read somewhere a really long time ago that the goal for Rock Band's music store was to have a wide selection of pretty much every artist ever, much like iTunes. Maybe now that goal will be achieved
  • SonicRocker15XSonicRocker15X Headliner
    edited July 2009
    I'd personally pay the yearly subscription fee just to review everything before it makes it to the store myself.
    Though I'm hoping a cheaper version for people who just want to review everything before it gets store wise will be out at some point...
  • General Lein979General Lein979 Headliner
    edited July 2009
    HMXEnosity;2730135 said:
    Billboard states in their article that indie label, Sub Pop is already on board.
    I can has Songs off screaming life and fopp by soundgarden? Also how is censoring going to work because each song has to go through the ersb right? Also pricing of the songs?
  • SoratarSoratar Scapegoat
    edited July 2009
    kingtonyx;2730243 said:
    I just hope that too many bands/labels don't go over the normal $2 cost

    I assume I'd be looking at labels to do that, I can see bands going for lower prices and more downloads
    Same here. I'm also looking forward to the whole discography thing they are supporting.
  • RockBandRockerRockBandRocker Love Is A Battleship
    edited July 2009
    jr174200;2730114 said:
    Will there be a length limit on the uploaded songs?

    (asks the guy who is praying that Phish releases full shows on the RBN)
    That would be damn cool.

    Heck, the idea of getting Rush songs like "Xanadu", "By-Tor and the Snow Dog", "2112", "Bastille Day" etc. isn't so ridiculous now.

    And maybe Pete Townshend can use the reconstructed masters and we can get the rest of Who's Next?
  • ffwarrior47ffwarrior47 Headliner
    edited July 2009
    I am so excited about this!!!!

    Thank you guys, i've never been so excited about anything music/video game related since Rock Band 1 first released!!!! :D :D :D
  • elfreakoelfreako Road Warrior
    edited July 2009
    Der_Lex;2730174 said:
    I'm a PS3 user too and share your frustration, but I think it's more a matter of Sony having to get on it than HMX. Microsoft gave them the framework they needed for this, Sony needs to do the same.
    It's too easy to just brush it off though. I'm not blaming anyone for how things turned out, obviously HMX have a great collaboration from Microsoft, which allows them to do great things, but I just hope they will think of their users and actively pursue an arrangement with Sony.

    I actually bought a PS3 just to get Rock Band, thinking it was going to remain HMX's platform of choice considering their past history with GH. I still don't have any other title for it. I love these games that much, but I can't help feeling betrayed by both Sony and HMX if this remains a 360 exclusive.

    I guess I just hope someone over there will keep fighting for us and not simply give up and blame Sony or whatever.
  • SonicRocker15XSonicRocker15X Headliner
    edited July 2009
    General Lein979;2730259 said:
    I can has Songs off screaming life and fopp by soundgarden? Also how is censoring going to work because each song has to go through the ersb right? Also pricing of the songs?
    Part of the review process deals with censorship issues, and people can price their own songs (from 50 cents to 3 bucks, is the current estimate).
  • AbaddonAbaddon Road Warrior
    edited July 2009
    Der_Lex;2730174 said:
    I'm a PS3 user too and share your frustration, but I think it's more a matter of Sony having to get on it than HMX. Microsoft gave them the framework they needed for this, Sony needs to do the same.
    Sorry, but this doesn't make sense. So if Artist X uses the Harmonix supplied XNA tool to chart a song, then they need to also use SNA (I made the name up, shoot me) to chart a different version of the song for it to be available on PS3? How does this remotely make sense?

    I think it's pretty clear that something else is going to have to happen for this content to appear on PS3 and Wii.
  • InappropeInapprope Opening Act
    edited July 2009
    I can see alot of quality charts being made, because charters from other music game communities (ScoreHero, Frets on Fire etc.) will jump on this.

    Very excited for this. Going to inform quite a few bands about it when the beta is released. :)
  • edited July 2009
    SonicRocker15X;2730258 said:
    I'd personally pay the yearly subscription fee just to review everything before it makes it to the store myself.
    Though I'm hoping a cheaper version for people who just want to review everything before it gets store wise will be out at some point...
    It won't be cheaper (because it is still an XNA membership), but we do hope people will do this so we can get the songs through more efficiently. And of course the upside is you get to play all the RBN songs before anyone else.
  • C-WeinerC-Weiner Road Warrior
    edited July 2009
    I'd like to work with Harmonix
  • SonicRocker15XSonicRocker15X Headliner
    edited July 2009
    hmxsean;2730278 said:
    It won't be cheaper (because it is still an XNA membership), but we do hope people will do this so we can get the songs through more efficiently. And of course the upside is you get to play all the RBN songs before anyone else.
    Good point, and that is a good upside...
    And 100 a year actually isn't that expensive. Especially compared to how much I've ALREADY spent on these games. :p

    Guess I'll do something like that then.

    But also, I have a question: Can you keep a song package on your console, even if it was turned down for the official RBN?
  • ZephielZephiel Rising Star
    edited July 2009
    What about Album covers? Do the owners get to make them? The trailer showed HMX album covers but that could be beta...or something.
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