afterstasis;2830726 said:really, it's not much like the GH creator... the GH creator was just basically a really bad DAW/sampler with a few "video gamey" features and the ability to share your creations.RBN is the logical progression of allowing music of all shapes and sizes (whether you made it yourself with a midi controller and garage-band or recorded it in a pro studio with a 9 piece band) an opportunity to be made into a playable track in RB, not to mention allowing artists to make some cash from the downloads.
Riddycal;2830730 said:i know,that's why i said it's 10x better.
OakTea;2833109 said:Except it isn't as widely usable, isn't open for free to anybody who has the game, and is probably temporarily nothing more than occasional extra DLC to PS3 and Wii users.That being said, it's a really great idea, and I hope it makes its way to other consoles and countries completely.
General Lein979;2853095 said:It's the answer the same problem, but different solutions. The problem is that people like making custom songs and their is only so much dlc we can release at a time.
Oddbrother;2953665 said:What do you think makes it 10x better? The fact that we don't make our own music and steal someone else's just to chart 'em?
Quazifuji;2956129 said:The best way I've seen to think about it is that the difference between GHTunes and RBN is like the difference between playing Rock Band and playing a real instrument. One's a accessible and fun diversion but you generally can't get too much out of it besides entertainment, while the other requires a lot of skill, time, and money to use but is a much bigger deal and you can potentially profit from it. In short, Rock Band Network doesn't obsolete the GH music creator for the same reason that real instruments don't obsolete rhythm games.Actually, I think these are two completely different problems,that people like making custom songs, and that Harmonix/Neversoft can only make so much DLC.The GH music creator mainly solves the first problem. It lets anyone make and play their own little songs without much musical knowledge or skill. The ability for other people to download them helps a bit for the second problem, but the low quality of the songs produced means most of the appeal generally relies on the ability to create your own, not to download other people's songs.RBN exists primarilly to solve the limited DLC problem. By allowing bands to do the work themselves (or hiring someone else to do it), there will be more songs available as DLC than Harmonix could possibly chart themselves, including from bands that Harmonix has probably never even heard of. It may also satisfy the hardcore custom charters a bit, but the high barrier of entry for creating songs (money, lots of time, relatively steep learning curve, needs to be professional quality, and you need to actually have the rights to a real song) means that it's primary purpose is to increase the amount of DLC available and the ease with which bands can get into Rock Band.You can't really steal someone else's music to chart it in RBN. I mean, you might technically be able to, but even aside from the legality issues, you'd only be able to to play it in audition mode, wouldn't be able to submit it,
Lunar_Savage;2994640 said:I'd gladly take the time to learn how to use everything, but I really don't wanna have to put up all that cash to release a song on RBN that might not do well.
afterstasis;2994762 said:you don't have to do either, though...there are quite a few groups taking submissions who will do the RBN work for musicians who want to have their music released, basically eliminating the membership fee and charting process in exchange for a percentage of the profits.
eddiehead-666;3001754 said:There are so many songs I want to jam along to on rock band that I imagine won't get released - I'm sure lots of people are the same, and of course the next person along won't necessarily want what I want. But I can still import Iron Maiden's The Wicker Man and have the software chart it for me and do a few tweaks here and there then i can jam along to the song on my console.
LuigiHann;3002589 said:It doesn't work that way, at all. The best they could possibly do with auto-charting along with an mp3 would end up synchronizing with the music about as well as audiosurf does. It's conceivable that someday they'd have software that could chart based on the pitch of the sounds, but even that would require a split master track to isolate the individual instruments (not for the usual reasons, but because the software would need to "hear" them separately to auto-chart them).So even if they did release the tools to everybody for free, you'd still have to spend hours and hours charting the song manually.
eddiehead-666;3002628 said:I'm pretty sure Harmonix has the ability to split tracks down to seperate sounds. I've been using similar software in music enginnering for a while now, the software is out there and most of it does run automatically
eddiehead-666;3001754 said:Me and a friend were talking about this about 2 days before it was announced - saying "wouldn't it be great if Harmonix could just release the software they use to chart the songs to us - that way we could get our own songs and chart it"The main reason for this though appears to not be what I originally wanted. I'd like harmonix to release the software to anyone (maybe a fee through XBL/PSN) so that we can put any song we want on there.There are so many songs I want to jam along to on rock band that I imagine won't get released - I'm sure lots of people are the same, and of course the next person along won't necessarily want what I want. But I can still import Iron Maiden's The Wicker Man and have the software chart it for me and do a few tweaks here and there then i can jam along to the song on my console.Of course, if bands want to release songs and make money from DCL etc they can still pay the subscription allowing them to upload - but I'm not bothered about that. I want this music creator so that I can put my favourite songs onto my console for my own enjoyment.Reckon Harmonix might consider doing that?