The Beatles: Rock Band 2? Quite a possibility (IMO).

RMThompsonRMThompson Opening Act
edited August 2012 in The Beatles: Rock Band
So, given the first week sales of The Beatles Rock Band, I think there is a possibility of HMX creating a sequel for the game.

The game is on pace to outsell Rock Band 2, or at least come close, and the strong Wii sales indicate that the older/casual set have bought into the game completely.

Many of these players will not have the ability, know how, or want to go online to download new songs. Therefore Harmonix is going to want to capitalize on these players by releasing the DLC on disc. They could, and might, do that via a Beatles Track Pack, which would be a great idea. They could feasibly sell each album seperately for about the same price as the DLC, perhaps a price point of $19.99.

However, as we all know, many of the BEST songs from The Beatles career is still missing, even AFTER the release of the three announced DLC albums. Hey Jude, Help, Penny Lane, all these songs will STILL be missing from the catalogue.

Harmonix has been tight lipped on their DLC plans after this year for the game. While surely they might not want to announce too much in order to capitalize on sales now (some people won't download one album if their favorite is coming 6 months from now), they would be silly NOT to release at least the majority of the major releases.

So, what does that mean? Well, we either get a TON of DLC, which would seem a good possibility, OR we see a second release; The Beatles 2.

They could release another large portion of the career, including the songs that were passed over the first time. They could even create new instruments, although that seems unlikely.

So it might seem like a pipe dream, but what do YOU guys think?

Comments

  • ArchangelZeroArchangelZero Road Warrior
    edited September 2009
    Quite honestly, I would rather have DLC.

    Number 1, even though we are missing rather famous songs, we have exhausted at least the majority of them with the game, plus the announced DLC. I would expect more and more people complaining about the setlist at that point (and quite honestly, they wouldn't have much of a setlist left)

    2. The track pack isn't gonna happen. Mainly because it would pretty much be TB:RB 2. They would have to work in the same engine (Track packs use RB1 engine), there is no exporting into the game (and of course, out) as of now, and with the majority being Wii owners, they would lose a lot with that, and we they would have to work in a lot of dreamscapes, which would be pretty overdone if it were just going to have a trackpack.
  • Sgt.PepperSgt.Pepper Opening Act
    edited September 2009
    I would buy any Beatles game, period.
  • Julio_Strikes_BackJulio_Strikes_Back Headliner
    edited September 2009
    No thanks I would rather just buy the DLC.
  • SirDrexlSirDrexl Opening Act
    edited September 2009
    Not until the next generation, please.
  • mva5580mva5580 Road Warrior
    edited September 2009
    I think they'll just make a disc (or two) of all the DLC they release.
  • Rod_StixxRod_Stixx Road Warrior
    edited September 2009
    Nah, there won't be a TBRB2. We'll just see more DLC (which is more profitable anyway). If they just pumped out another disc with the songs not put in this game (which wouldn't be a huge number with upcoming scheduled DLC), they would get a lot of criticism for pumping out another disc, but not changing anything (which would be most cost effective), or changing a bunch of stuff that costs a lot of money and time (RB3 has to come out sometime, you know).

    The best bet is to just stick with the DLC model and make as many tracks available for download as they can.
  • RMThompsonRMThompson Opening Act
    edited September 2009
    I guess you are all missing the point. I too would rather have DLC... but a LARGE portion of this particular audience won't be willing to do DLC. These are people without wireless internet connections in their home or have no idea how to do something like that.

    Besides, their is no reason to do another engine... it's the same game with different songs. There is still PLENTY of Beatles memorbilia to throw into the game, or it could start later in the career and cover the beginning of the solo careers.
  • T-HybridT-Hybrid Washed Up
    edited September 2009
    Forum Hype Machine....ACTIVATE!
  • Rod_StixxRod_Stixx Road Warrior
    edited September 2009
    I didn't miss your point at all. I know exactly what you are getting at - I just don't think that they will want to pursue such a thing. Even with the "most people don't do DLC" aspect, RB DLC is highly profitable. Much more so than putting out game discs and equipment. If they use the same engine, they WILL take criticism for just putting out a new disc, that has nothing new besides more songs to offer (this has happened to many a game that offers the same exact engine/game as the previous edition, but with new songs/maps/whatever).

    DLC is still quite profitable (even hitting fewer people than a possible second disc), and there would be quite a big drop in songs available for a second game (the best playable songs for the game are mostly on the disc or will be coming for DLC - even if there are some popular ones unavailable now, they may not be as much fun for drums/guitar).

    I could see something like a Beatles RB solo edition maybe. Doubt it, but at least you'd be drawing from a completely new source of songs. Still doubt it would happen, but I would think it more likely than a TBRB2 disc.
  • mva5580mva5580 Road Warrior
    edited September 2009
    RMThompson;3055620 said:
    I guess you are all missing the point. I too would rather have DLC... but a LARGE portion of this particular audience won't be willing to do DLC. These are people without wireless internet connections in their home or have no idea how to do something like that.

    Besides, their is no reason to do another engine... it's the same game with different songs. There is still PLENTY of Beatles memorbilia to throw into the game, or it could start later in the career and cover the beginning of the solo careers.
    I get your point; it just doesn't make sense to do a sequel when there is such a small amount of songs to release before this game itself would be "complete." And yes I know they could go in to the Anthologies, Love, solo stuff, etc. But even that stuff can just be DLC in this game.

    Like I said, I won't be surprised if they release a disc or two encompassing the DLC that is released for The Beatles: Rock Band so people w/o that access can put it into their games easier. But a full-on Beatles: Rock Band 2 just doesn't really add up.
  • WhiplashWhiplash Opening Act
    edited September 2009
    That would be completely foolish with the DLC being released. A second game would have to lean mostly on their earlier stuff with some White Album and Revolver thrown in. It wouldn't be nearly as much of a nice blend as this is. How would you even end it now that they'd done the rooftop concert in this?

    The only thing the excellent sales could lead to is more DLC, in my opinion.
  • samjjonessamjjones Road Warrior
    edited September 2009
    Track packs likely.

    If they do another full fledged game, there better be some kind of keyboard/piano peripheral.

    Or a freaking strings section for Eleanor Rigby.
  • T-HybridT-Hybrid Washed Up
    edited September 2009
    How can you do a sequel when you've already got three albums worth of content coming via DLC?
  • HeadHunter67HeadHunter67 Road Warrior
    edited September 2009
    RMThompson;3055620 said:
    II too would rather have DLC... but a LARGE portion of this particular audience won't be willing to do DLC. These are people without wireless internet connections in their home or have no idea how to do something like that.
    Well... they're going to have to learn sometime. We're talking about two separate groups of people here:

    1) People with internet capability for their consoles, who know how to use it and buy DLC.
    2) People who don't play online and neither know nor care about DLC.

    The second group may be larger, but the first group is large enough to make DLC feasible. It's never been a problem with RB to date, why would it be an issue now?

    Not to mention, even if the people in group 2 got internet for their consoles, they either still wouldn't care about DLC (in which case they're not the target audience for the product) or they'd change their desire to buy (and effectively move into group 1).

    A track pack is not going to be a feasible option here. I don't think the Beatles want to go that way, I don't think people will buy it in sufficient numbers to justify making it, and I don't think HMX wants to invest time and money into something that will be in a markdown bin months from now.

    Let's hope we don't see a Beatles Track Pack on clearance next to the AC/DC ones. :rolleyes:
  • dabrry0523dabrry0523 Road Warrior
    edited September 2009
    RMThompson;3055620 said:
    I guess you are all missing the point. I too would rather have DLC... but a LARGE portion of this particular audience won't be willing to do DLC. These are people without wireless internet connections in their home or have no idea how to do something like that.

    Besides, their is no reason to do another engine... it's the same game with different songs. There is still PLENTY of Beatles memorbilia to throw into the game, or it could start later in the career and cover the beginning of the solo careers.
    still with what your saying they still don't have to put out a TBRB2 all they would and probably will do is put of track packs like they do for the regular rock band (Classic rock track Pack, Country Track pack)
  • mva5580mva5580 Road Warrior
    edited September 2009
    HeadHunter67;3055759 said:
    Well... they're going to have to learn sometime. We're talking about two separate groups of people here:

    1) People with internet capability for their consoles, who know how to use it and buy DLC.
    2) People who don't play online and neither know nor care about DLC.

    The second group may be larger, but the first group is large enough to make DLC feasible. It's never been a problem with RB to date, why would it be an issue now?

    Not to mention, even if the people in group 2 got internet for their consoles, they either still wouldn't care about DLC (in which case they're not the target audience for the product) or they'd change their desire to buy (and effectively move into group 1).

    A track pack is not going to be a feasible option here. I don't think the Beatles want to go that way, I don't think people will buy it in sufficient numbers to justify making it, and I don't think HMX wants to invest time and money into something that will be in a markdown bin months from now.

    Let's hope we don't see a Beatles Track Pack on clearance next to the AC/DC ones. :rolleyes:
    I agree with this; it makes the most sense. Just stick with the DLC and "complete" the current game as much as humanly possible. It's great to imagine the accomplishment they could achieve by releasing every album. It would be a true encyclopedia of music for the greatest band of all time and presented in a way that will be hard to beat for many music games to come.
  • KingfishKingfish Opening Act
    edited September 2009
    The only way I could see a TB:RB2 is if they set it up as an upgrade/expansion to the current TB:RB. It would give us another 40-45 songs, maybe all the ones with keyboard/harmonica type stuff. Two or three new venues and a butt load of new dreamscapes.

    But I personally don't think this will happen. I just don't see the Beatles and Apple Corps signing up for a continuation of the game. If there is a 2 then why not 3 or 4 even! If there is a TB:RB2 it will be like someone said, for the NEXT next gen...

    I do hope tho that the great response and sales will give HMX the clout to get 99% of the Beatles discography out on DLC. It would also be great to have some new live venues, Candlestick Park, The London Paladium or the Hollywood Bowl. More dreamscapes too of course and maybe even the Star-Club in Hamburg for another intimate venue for the early stuff and covers.

    Oh well, just dreaming I guess...
  • ValiantPaulValiantPaul Opening Act
    edited September 2009
    I'll buy every DLC they release for this game...as long as they stick to releasing the full albums and complete the collection. Maybe even little avatar thingies.
  • MostSpartan14MostSpartan14 Road Warrior
    edited September 2009
    I couldn't see this happening. Even though I could easily think of 45 more songs I would love to have, it's a little tougher to get 45 more songs that are mostly popular, fun to play, and that equally represent their song library (this is not including songs that are already announced as DLC). It could be done, but there would be a lot of boring songs, deeper cuts, or too many songs focused on one part of their career. If there aren't enough good songs, people won't want to buy the game.
  • edited September 2009
    Yes there are good songs not yet released, but 45+ of them? I don't see it.
  • HyeJinx1984HyeJinx1984 Road Warrior
    edited September 2009
    We MAY get track packs, I highly doubt we'd get a sequel. Don't really need one.
  • RMThompsonRMThompson Opening Act
    edited September 2009
    Here's 36 right now that would work off the top of my head that aren't released currently, nor slated to be released in DLC. Not saying that this makes it anymore feasible, but just showing how diverse their career REALLY is:

    Love Me Do
    She Loves You
    Please Please Me
    All My Loving
    Till There Was You
    Please Mister Postman
    Everybody's Trying to be my Baby
    If I fell
    And I Love Her
    Anytime At all
    Help!
    You've Got to Hide Your Love Away
    I've just seen a Face
    Yesterday
    I'm Down
    We Can Work It out
    Rain
    I'm Only Sleeping
    Good Day Sunshine
    Doctor Robert
    Got to Get you Into My Life
    Strawberry Fields Forever
    Penny Lane
    Baby Your a Rich Man
    Ob-la-Di-Ob-la-Da
    Happiness is a Warm Gun
    Blackbird
    Rocky Raccoon
    Revolution 1 (original version, not the single)
    Lady Madonna
    Hey Jude
    Let it Be
    Across The Universe
    You know My Name (Look up the Number)
    One after 909
    The Long and Winding Road
  • californicationcalifornication Opening Act
    edited September 2009
    I'd rather just get DLC.
  • LuigiHannLuigiHann Stormtrooper
    edited September 2009
    They could do exportable track packs based on albums, or sets of albums. But there's not really room or need for a second Beatles game on this generation of hardware. Maybe five years from now
  • GranndGrannd Opening Act
    edited September 2009
    I don't see where there needs to be a Beatles 2 when DLC and on-disc Track packs will cover both those with and without an internet connection.

    On the other hand, releasing TBRB2 in a year holding Help and Hey Jude exclusively, together with a DLC and TBRB1 import function would probably sell great too.
    It could be a great profitmaker, but I think Harmonix will settle on DLC and most probably there will be track packs for those without an internet connection.
  • DerTommissarDerTommissar Road Warrior
    edited September 2009
    Want to know if there would be a TB 2? Two words would answer that:

    Third guitar.

    If HMX could get that going, I'd bet they could eventually reboot this game. However, you'd either have to repurchase every song currently available, or play them with only 2 guitars.

    If they could do that, they could easily redo a story mode with more venues and dreamscapes and so forth to pretty the game up further.
  • DiyomaroDiyomaro Unsigned
    edited September 2009
    I don't see The Beatles: Rock Band 2 happening honestly. MAYBE a track pack, but I see that as unlikely as well. They just need to pump out DLC. I wanna play Penny Lane, Hey Jude, and Help! already!!!
  • JB392JB392 Unsigned
    edited September 2009
    I would love\buy more DLC but for people without DLC maybe track packs could be a good idea.
  • tcole6tcole6 Opening Act
    edited September 2009
    RMThompson;3056521 said:
    Here's 36 right now that would work off the top of my head that aren't released currently, nor slated to be released in DLC. Not saying that this makes it anymore feasible, but just showing how diverse their career REALLY is:

    Love Me Do
    She Loves You
    Please Please Me
    All My Loving
    Till There Was You
    Please Mister Postman
    Everybody's Trying to be my Baby
    If I fell
    And I Love Her
    Anytime At all
    Help!
    You've Got to Hide Your Love Away
    I've just seen a Face
    Yesterday
    I'm Down
    We Can Work It out
    Rain
    I'm Only Sleeping
    Good Day Sunshine
    Doctor Robert
    Got to Get you Into My Life
    Strawberry Fields Forever
    Penny Lane
    Baby Your a Rich Man
    Ob-la-Di-Ob-la-Da
    Happiness is a Warm Gun
    Blackbird
    Rocky Raccoon
    Revolution 1 (original version, not the single)
    Lady Madonna
    Hey Jude
    Let it Be
    Across The Universe
    You know My Name (Look up the Number)
    One after 909
    The Long and Winding Road
    Good work...nice list.
  • elfreakoelfreako Road Warrior
    edited September 2009
    RMThompson;3056521 said:
    Here's 36 right now that would work off the top of my head that aren't released currently, nor slated to be released in DLC. Not saying that this makes it anymore feasible, but just showing how diverse their career REALLY is:

    Love Me Do
    She Loves You
    Please Please Me
    All My Loving
    Till There Was You
    Please Mister Postman
    Everybody's Trying to be my Baby
    If I fell
    And I Love Her
    Anytime At all
    Help!
    You've Got to Hide Your Love Away
    I've just seen a Face
    Yesterday
    I'm Down
    We Can Work It out
    Rain
    I'm Only Sleeping
    Good Day Sunshine
    Doctor Robert
    Got to Get you Into My Life
    Strawberry Fields Forever
    Penny Lane
    Baby Your a Rich Man
    Ob-la-Di-Ob-la-Da
    Happiness is a Warm Gun
    Blackbird
    Rocky Raccoon
    Revolution 1 (original version, not the single)
    Lady Madonna
    Hey Jude
    Let it Be
    Across The Universe
    You know My Name (Look up the Number)
    One after 909
    The Long and Winding Road
    I doubt they can sell that list as a game and make more $$$ off of it than they would with DLC. Half of those songs are unknown to casual Beatles listeners. They make a lot more on DLC since it's more expensive and involves little cost.

    Then consider the risk of a sequel not selling well. The financial consequences would be pretty severe. DLC on the other hand involves no risk whatsoever. A song doesn't sell well? So what! It didn't cost much to have it available in the first place, they already have access to most of their discography.

    Maybe a track pack of 20 songs already available as DLC makes sense, but a full game? They need to move on to other projects.
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