Entire Dream Theater catalog a possibility!

jayou521jayou521 Washed Up
edited August 2012 in The Rock Band Network
From Mike Portnoys' website forums:
Xaanix,

My company does the official transcription books for DT - we've already been in contact with DT's management about doing DT's music for the RBN. Chris Romero, who transcribes keys for Jordan, happens to be an amazing Rock Band player - he was top 25 in the world at one point on the 360 leaderboards. He was on this the day they announced it - they're looking at the feasibility of it as far as legal issues etc. We really want to do it and Chris is the perfect person to make the charts for them... Fingers are crossed that it'll happen.

Ryan
Provided it all works out, the plan is to chart the entire catalog...
http://www.mikeportnoy.com/forum/m2405474.aspx

From the Dream Theater forums:
Well, since Shadow (thats me lol) has pestered me from my sick bed, I've done the transcription for yous.

I told JR that I didn't know much about it but people were saying somebody needed to ask the band about it so I was going to...

KP (thats the DT fanclub runner): Rock Band Network – what do you know about it?

JR (Jordan Rudess): Video games? Yeah, it’s when you prepare the song for people to play and a lot of bands are doing it themselves…

KP: Yeah, I think it has to come from the band…

JR: Well, we’re very aware of that. Actually, the guy, Chris Romero, who’s our main keyboard transcriber has spoken to me about that and I’ve spoken to our management and everyone’s really aware of it. We’re just waiting for things to work out on a business level I think with that ‘coz’ we’d all love to see it happen…

KP: Rumour was from Ryan Marziarz (Tabs)…

JR: Yeah, the other transcriber…

KP: that there’s talk that you might do the entire catalogue. Do you know if that’s true?

JR: Well, yeah, hmm, nothing’s happened yet. It would be cool and if they get the go-ahead they’ll be happy – it’s a lot of work! [laughter]

KP: So… it’s something that everybody’s looking at and if it can happen it will happen?

JR: Yeah, for sure! Absolutely. I think it would be a really cool thing.

KP: Great! Thank you!

Hope this meets your expectations!
http://www.dreamtheaterforums.org/boards/index.php?topic=5178.70

Obviously they can't put out any songs over 10 minutes, but nonetheless it would be awesome if we can more Dream Theater via the RBN!!! :D

REALLY hoping this works out.

Comments

  • davidshekdavidshek Community Playtester
    edited October 2009
    vitamins999;3154455 said:
    Is it a case of the RBN software actually doesn't allow songs to be longer than 10 minutes, or that 10+ minute songs won't pass HMX's peer review?
    It's not the peer review. It was specifically stated when RBN was announced that songs will have a 30-second minimum, and 10-minute maximum.
  • Setsu102Setsu102 Rising Star
    edited October 2009
    davidshek;3154636 said:
    It's not the peer review. It was specifically stated when RBN was announced that songs will have a 30-second minimum, and 10-minute maximum.
    Finding out whether that's a software limitation or perhaps a server-side hardware limitation is what's key to seeing if the rule can be bent for larger artists. I hope this goes through, because otherwise we probably wouldn't see any more DT from HMX's main store for a long while.
  • Redon26Redon26 Opening Act
    edited October 2009
    So there's no hope for Octavarium on RBN? :( (The song is 24 minutes)
  • NoahTheDukeNoahTheDuke Unsigned
    edited October 2009
    Yeah, no Octavarium. Not unless they split it into multiple tracks. Actually, I just went through the DT discography, and made notes about each of the songs that probably won't make it. I guess I could post it here too! (I originally made it for Scorehero.)

    When Dream And Day Unite:
    1. A Fortune in Lies 5:12
    2. Status Seeker 4:15
    3. The Ytse Jam 5:43
    4. The Killing Hand 8:40
    5. Light Fuse and Get Away 7:23
    6. Afterlife 5:27
    7. The Ones Who Help to Set the Sun 8:04
    8. Only a Matter of Time 6:35

    Cool. The whole album! I can't wait for Ytse Jame and The Killing Hand. Totally awesome songs.

    Images And Words:
    1. Pull Me Under 8:11
    2. Another Day 4:24
    3. Take the Time 8:21
    4. Surrounded 5:30
    5. Metropolis, Pt. I: The Miracle and the Sleeper 9:32
    6. Under a Glass Moon 7:04
    7. Wait for Sleep 2:32
    8. Learning to Live 11:31

    All but Learning To Live. LtL makes me super sad, but holy **** Under A Glass Moon? That solo is fantastic. Also, another GH song. Cha-ching! Will they chart Wait For Sleep only for Vocals? Who knows? I love the song, though.

    Awake:
    1. 6:00 5:31
    2. Caught in a Web 5:28
    3. Innocence Faded 5:43
    4. A Mind Beside Itself: I. Erotomania 6:45
    5. A Mind Beside Itself: II. Voices 9:53
    6. A Mind Beside Itself: III. The Silent Man 3:48
    7. The Mirror 6:45
    8. Lie 6:34
    9. Lifting Shadows Off a Dream 6:05
    10. Scarred 11:00
    11. Space-Dye Vest 7:29

    Scarred is beautiful, and I weep for its' exclusion. It fades out, but not soon enough. The songs we do get more than make up for it, though: The Mirror, Erotomania, 6:00!

    A Change Of Seasons:
    Way too long. Even if they try to split it up, it'd have to be in at least 3 parts. Ouch.

    Falling Into Infinity:
    1. New Millennium 8:20
    2. You Not Me 4:58
    3. Peruvian Skies 6:43
    4. Hollow Years 5:53
    5. Burning My Soul 5:29
    6. Hell's Kitchen 4:16
    7. Lines in the Sand 12:05
    8. Take Away My Pain 6:03
    9. Just Let Me Breathe 5:28
    10. Anna Lee 5:51
    11. Trial of Tears 13:07

    Trial Of Tears could easily be split into its' three parts, the cuts being at 6:11 and 9:59. Not the smoothest, but it's Dream Theater. They'll figure it out. Lines In The Sand, in the same vein, could be two parts. Or not. It might be too much of a hassle. Oh well. Just Let Me Breathe is sweet.

    Metropolis Pt. 2: Scenes from a Memory:
    1. Scene One: Regression 2:06
    2. Scene Two, Part. I: Overture 1928 3:37
    3. Scene Two, Part. II: Strange D
  • SenorLarrySenorLarry Opening Act
    edited October 2009
    It's times like this that I wish I had a 360. Hopefully RBN will come to the other systems in RB3, 'cause Dream Theater would be epic.
  • Sento KaibaSento Kaiba Opening Act
    edited October 2009
    Hmm, it has left me wondering if the whole DT discography is going to be covered, could the live covers of other bands/songs be charted/for sale on the RBN?
  • jayou521jayou521 Washed Up
    edited October 2009
    Sento Kaiba;3154879 said:
    Hmm, it has left me wondering if the whole DT discography is going to be covered, could the live covers of other bands/songs be charted/for sale on the RBN?
    Covers are not allowed on the RBN.
  • wrldindstries302wrldindstries302 Road Warrior
    edited October 2009
    bootz0rs;3153890 said:
    They could be a driving force in getting highly well known bands into RBN.
    This could be true if Dream Theater was a well known band.
  • Thom1234Thom1234 Road Warrior
    edited October 2009
    Instrumedley pl0x.

    EDIT: Damn, forgot that about half of their catalog will be unusable due to the idiotic 10-minute restriction. Thanks for screwing over pretty much every Prog Band with this stupid rule, HMX.
  • trg007trg007 Your Ever Rocking RBN Forum Guru
    edited October 2009
    Yeah, I'm sure there's no technical reason for it at all, they just decided to impose the limit purposely to screw prog bands. :rolleyes:
  • BuRn7 CaK3BuRn7 CaK3 Banned
    edited October 2009
    WingsOfSteel;3154365 said:
    We can have 10+ minute songs in Rock Band, but not through the RBN.
    Oh. Okay. Thanks!
  • FizzelerFizzeler Washed Up
    edited October 2009
    Der_Lex;3153849 said:
    As much as I dislike the last couple of albums, this would be epic if it happens.
    Agreed 100% of course I am not sure about Dominici songs they may have to use Live versions for When Dream And Day Unite
  • UltraceUltrace Road Warrior
    edited October 2009
    wrldindstries302;3155278 said:
    This could be true if Dream Theater was a well known band.
    Precisely. Dream Theater is not much more well-known than other bands we've seen on RBN. Among people who like their kind of music, they may be well-known, but they remain relatively anonymous to the public at large.

    Still, if requests and reaction from the forums are any indication, something like this could definitely drive some sales and interest in RBN.
  • davidshekdavidshek Community Playtester
    edited October 2009
    Ultrace;3155664 said:
    Precisely. Dream Theater is not much more well-known than other bands we've seen on RBN.
    And the Exaggeration of the Month award goes to...
  • SwivleSwivle Rising Star
    edited October 2009
    davidshek;3155764 said:
    And the Exaggeration of the Month award goes to...
    Honestly.

    Dream Theater is one of those 'just under the surface' bands, as I like to say. Anyone whose bother to look even an inch past what they are told to like by the media has likely heard of Dream Theater. Those people also likely play Rock Band. Put two and two together.
  • MighedMighed Opening Act
    edited October 2009
    Yyyyyyyeeeeeeeeaaaaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhh!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    If this is not true i am giong to be so mad, but thanks for the update

    Im still trying to get in contact with alex lifeson of rush for the entire rush catalog, but it turns out that it would take me two hours to bike to his new house, and I dont have a car to drive the 15 minutes away from me, and i do not know if he will even be there
  • kurathkurath Opening Act
    edited October 2009
    Although I wasn't honestly expecting (and still not really) the full catalog, I did see this as conceivably being something that DT would get into - but hearing about it as more than speculation is great. Would gladly take most anything I could get, and while the 10 minute limit is a hindrance here, there's still plenty of material to be had.
  • Shorty11857Shorty11857 Opening Act
    edited October 2009
    wrldindstries302;3155278 said:
    This could be true if Dream Theater was a well known band.
    Last album reached number 6 in the US and was 1 in Europe...yup no one knows these guys
  • edited October 2009
    As for those who say DT is not a well-known band, their last two albums made it to the #19 and #6 spots in the Billboard Album top 200, and their chart positions in mainland Europe (they never really caught on in the UK, for some reason), Japan and Mexico have been even higher. Think of them what you will, but they're not an small, unknown band by any means, especially not outside of the US.
  • Alright_ComputerAlright_Computer Butt Neck
    edited October 2009
    wrldindstries302;3155278 said:
    This could be true if Dream Theater was a well known band.
    Ultrace;3155664 said:
    Precisely. Dream Theater is not much more well-known than other bands we've seen on RBN. Among people who like their kind of music, they may be well-known, but they remain relatively anonymous to the public at large.

    Still, if requests and reaction from the forums are any indication, something like this could definitely drive some sales and interest in RBN.
    Yeah, they've sold 8 million albums, and all of their albums but one have made it into the top 200 album charts in the US except their first one, including their recent #6 album, not to mention the appearances they made in Rock Band and GHWT... but you're right, no one knows who they are.
  • DeltaSigMcGeheeDeltaSigMcGehee Unsigned
    edited October 2009
    The full DT catalogue would be EPIC
  • SwivleSwivle Rising Star
    edited October 2009
    The guys on Scorehero were talking about the apparent ten minute limit...they linked an article that mentioned the limit as twenty minutes. EDIT: Ignore that, they're wrong.

    Also, in the developer quotes thread HMXEnosity said about any time limit: "We are committed to giving artists the same tools that Harmonix uses when authoring music. I want to make it clear that RBN Store songs (if authored to the fullest) will be of the same caliber of songs in the RB Music Store. More details to come later."

    That to me indicates that a big name artist like DT would get the same treatment on the RBN store as in the regular store.

    Here's the SH topic.
  • davidshekdavidshek Community Playtester
    edited October 2009
    Swivle;3156621 said:
    The guys on Scorehero were talking about the apparent ten minute limit...they linked an article that mentioned the limit as twenty minutes.
    The Wired link that you're referring to is wrong. It's 30 seconds to 10 minutes.
  • jayou521jayou521 Washed Up
    edited October 2009
    Swivle;3156621 said:
    The guys on Scorehero were talking about the apparent ten minute limit...they linked an article that mentioned the limit as twenty minutes.
    HMXEnosity already said that the limit was 10 minutes...

    http://www.rockband.com/forums/showthread.php?t=157183
  • SnitskySnitsky Road Warrior
    edited October 2009
    Dream Theaters whole catalog minus all songs over 10 minutes long is actually like only 1/3rd of Dream Theaters catalog though lol
  • jayou521jayou521 Washed Up
    edited October 2009
    Snitsky;3156703 said:
    Dream Theaters whole catalog minus all songs over 10 minutes long is actually like only 1/3rd of Dream Theaters catalog though lol
    If you go to Page 4 there's a post there that details everything that would be taken out.

    By my count there are 24 songs over 10 minutes~ and 90 total tracks we don't have (splitting apart SDOIT)

    So actually only slightly less than one third of their songs would not work (we would get a bit over 2/3 of their catalog).
  • J-Roc-DrumzJ-Roc-Drumz Rising Star
    edited October 2009
  • k-mack-mac Road Warrior
    edited October 2009
    My best friend would go nuts if they release all of Dream Theater's stuff (10+ minute stuff excluded).
  • AccounAccoun Unsigned
    edited October 2009
    Oh great. Again people who prefer on-disc content/non-digital copies of things will be screwed...
  • MythicAXLMythicAXL Rising Star
    edited October 2009
    Sweet dancing Jesus! Yes please!
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