The Unofficial Goth Rock Thread

ShadowolfShadowolf Unsigned
edited July 2012 in History of Rock
Didn't see a thread... so let's talk goth! 8) Need recommendations? I'm the man!
General post-punk (Gang of Four, Psych Furs, Einsturzende, Clock DVA) and dark post-punk revival bands (Interpol, Xiu Xiu, Editors, She Wants Revenge, Gliss, etc) are also welcome to discuss!

[CENTER]Recent Updates:[/CENTER]
1/2 - New thread! I made a Playlist (Link below), please listen, especially if you have no idea what this genre sounds like!
Would like to say RIP to Rowland S. Howard (Birthday Party, Crime & the City Solution, These Immortal Souls), who passed away at 50 on 12/30 from liver cancer.

[CENTER] Genres:
[ Post Punk † Positive Punk † Goth Rock † Deathrock † Darkwave † French Coldwave ]
Related Genres:
Punk Rock | Glam Rock | No Wave | Dream Pop | Shoegaze | Ethereal Wave | Synthpop | Minimal Wave | Dark Cabaret | Industrial | Post-Industrial | EBM | Neo-Folk | Horror Punk | Psychobilly | Gothabilly | Southern Gothic-Country | Trip Hop | Dance Punk | Death Disco | Electropop | Witch House | Blackwave/gaze

[CENTER]What is Goth?[/CENTER]
Goth rock is an offshoot of post-punk... Its reputation as the darkest and gloomiest form of underground rock is largely deserved, though today that reputation stems more from the visual theatricality of its bands and black-clad followers. Sonically, goth rock took the cold synthesizers and processed guitars of post-punk and used them to construct foreboding, sorrowful, often epic soundscapes. Early on, its lyrics were usually introspective and intensely personal, but its poetic sensibilities soon led to a taste for literary romanticism, morbidity, religious symbolism, and/or supernatural mysticism. Goth rock was generally not a critically acclaimed style, given its penchant for florid poetry, relentlessly mournful dirges, and melodramatic excess.
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Bands
(in no way meant to be comprehensive; a few of these are arguable, but open to interpretation)[/CENTER]
45 Grave, Alien Sex Fiend, All Gone Dead, And Also the Trees, Audra, Asylum Party, Ausgang, Bauhaus, Bella Morte, Big Electric Cat, The Birthday Party, Blutengel, The Bolshoi, Bomb Party, Bone Orchard, Burning Image, The Chameleons, Children on Stun, Christian Death, The Church, Cinema Strange, Clan of Xymox, Cocteau Twins, Cranes, The Creatures, Creaming Jesus, Crime & the City Solution, The Cruxshadows, The Cult, The Cure, The Damned, The Danse Society, Dead Can Dance, The Deadfly Ensemble, Death in June, The Deep Eynde, Depeche Mode, Diamanda Galas, Diary of Dreams, Eat Your Make Up, Echo & the Bunnymen, Entertainment, Faith & the Muse, Fields of the Nephilim, The Flesh Eaters, Flesh for Lulu, Frank the Baptist, The Frozen Autumn, Gene Loves Jezebel, The Gentry, Gloria Mundi, The Glove, The Grinning Plowman, Handful of Snowdrops, The Horrors, Human Drama, In the Nursery, Into a Circle, Joy Disaster, Joy Division, Killing Joke, Kirlian Camera, Kommunity FK, The Last Days of Jesus, London After Midnight, Lords of the New Church, Love and Rockets, Lycia, The March Violets, Mephisto Walz, The Mighty Sphincter, Miranda Sex Garden, The Mission UK, Mors Syphilitica, Murder at the Registry, NFD, Nick Cave & the Bad Seeds, Nosferatu, Pink Turns Blue, Pins & Needles, The Phantom Limbs, Play Dead, Radio Werewolf, Red Lorry Yellow Lorry, Red Temple Spirits, Rose of Avalanche, Rudimentary Peni, Scarlet's Remains, Screams for Tina, Sex Gang Children, Shadow Project, The Shroud, Siouxsie & the Banshees, The Sisters of Mercy, Specimen, Skeletal Family, Sopor Aeternus & the Ensemble of Shadows, The Sound, A Spectre is Haunting Europe, Swans, Switchblade Symphony, Tones on Tail, TSOL, Tuxedomoon, UK Decay, Vernian Process, Virgin Prunes, Voodoo Church, The Wake, The Wolfgang Press, Wolfsheim, Xmal Deutschland, Zadera

[CENTER]Links:
* Playlist.com -- enjoy the huuuge playlist!
* (Stay tuned, I'll make a Youtube playlist too later on)
* (Also stay tuned, 'cause I have a Shoutcast Radio devoted to post-punk and goth rock coming!)
* Post-Punk.com (my friend Joshua runs this site, check it out!)
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Comments

  • neckermanncjneckermanncj Washed Up
    edited January 2010
    The Cure!!!!!!!!!!!!!! :D
  • ShadowolfShadowolf Unsigned
    edited January 2010
    Hell yeah, three cheers for The Cure! ^.^
  • GowienczykGowienczyk Pooper of Parties
    edited January 2010
    Well, The Cure doesn't exactly have an consistent discography! From the ones I've heard, they seem to progress into different ideas throughout their career. Only ones I've heard and adore are:

    Disintegration
    Pornography
    Seventeen Seconds
    Three Imaginary Boys


    Which ones are proper goth rock?
  • neckermanncjneckermanncj Washed Up
    edited January 2010
    Gowienczyk;3397641 said:
    Well, The Cure doesn't exactly have an consistent discography! From the ones I've heard, they seem to progress into different ideas throughout their career. Only ones I've heard and adore are:

    Disintegration
    Pornography
    Seventeen Seconds
    Three Imaginary Boys


    Which ones are proper goth rock?
    i'd say disintegration, seventeen seconds and maybe pornography, depending on how you look at it


    you should check out "the head on the door" & "wish" not necessarily goth but awesome none-the-less
  • ShadowolfShadowolf Unsigned
    edited January 2010
    Yeah, Seventeen Seconds, Pornography, Faith, Disintegration, and arguably Bloodflowers are their goth rock records.
    Although their other stuff delve into pop and new wave and such, they usually stick in at least one goth rock song per record (except the last one probably ='( )
  • neckermanncjneckermanncj Washed Up
    edited January 2010
    Shadowolf;3397676 said:
    Faith

    Bloodflowers
    this album seems to get forgotten all the time, it's very well done.


    yeah i forgot another of "The Trilogy", great album! :D
  • GowienczykGowienczyk Pooper of Parties
    edited January 2010
    I prefer their straight up post-punk stuff like Three Imaginary Boys, personally. But hey, I like Bauhaus so I make up for that failure, right?
  • FizzelerFizzeler Washed Up
    edited January 2010
    Sweet Joy Division, Siouxsie & The Banshees, Sisters Of Mercy, Bauhaus, and Gothic Metal

    Also I suggest linking some last.fm links I am a personal fan of Darkwave :)
  • neckermanncjneckermanncj Washed Up
    edited January 2010
    Gowienczyk;3397689 said:
    I prefer their straight up post-punk stuff like Three Imaginary Boys, personally. But hey, I like Bauhaus so I make up for that failure, right?
    yes, but...
    neckermanncj;3397645 said:

    you should check out "the head on the door" & "wish" not necessarily goth but awesome none-the-less
  • ZosoBaronZosoBaron Road Warrior
    edited January 2010
    Floodland.

    That is all.
  • jayou521jayou521 Washed Up
    edited January 2010
    I've already looked into these bands:
    Shadowolf;3397599 said:
    Bauhaus, The Chameleons, Christian Death, Cranes, The Cult, The Cure, Depeche Mode, Echo & the Bunnymen, Fields of the Nephilim, Joy Division, The Mission UK, The Sisters of Mercy, Switchblade Symphony
    ~love The Sisters of Mercy, Joy Division, Depeche Mode, Bauhaus, The Mission UK, and The Cure~

    I'd also throw in Type O Negative if you're including Gothic Metal.
  • ShadowolfShadowolf Unsigned
    edited January 2010
    ZosoBaron;3397753 said:
    Floodland.

    That is all.
    An amazing album indeed :cool:
  • ShadowolfShadowolf Unsigned
    edited January 2010
    jayou521;3397769 said:
    I've already looked into these bands:

    ~love The Sisters of Mercy, Joy Division, Depeche Mode, Bauhaus, The Mission UK, and The Cure~

    I'd also throw in Type O Negative if you're including Gothic Metal.
    Awesome! =D
    Type O is amazing, but yeah, just avoiding gothic metal for now, but they're definitely one of the few gothic metal bands that includes obvious classic goth rock elements. Most bands in the gothic metal realm seem to have more to do with symphonic metal, power metal, death metal, and other metal genres.
    Though oppositely, I am putting goth rock bands with metal pastiches (like Fields) in there, hehe (as opposed to metal bands with goth pastiches, like Type O) =3
  • killer_roachkiller_roach Washed Up
    edited January 2010
    Definitely a goth-rock fan, although particularly partial to The Cult, Depeche Mode, Echo and the Bunnymen, Joy Division, Killing Joke, Siouxsie and the Banshees, and Sisters of Mercy. Also somewhat into synthpop, psychobilly, trip hop, and dark caberet, although not as knowledgeable in those areas as I should be.
  • GowienczykGowienczyk Pooper of Parties
    edited January 2010
    The Cult kind of lost any sort of respect with me after the crap they did after Love.
  • killer_roachkiller_roach Washed Up
    edited January 2010
    Gowienczyk;3397830 said:
    The Cult kind of lost any sort of respect with me after the crap they did after Love.
    Point taken, but there's just some stuff you just gotta overlook, heh.
  • GowienczykGowienczyk Pooper of Parties
    edited January 2010
    Oh yeah Love and Dreamtime (as well as Ghost Dance) are fan frickin' tastic. :)
  • afterstasisafterstasis Washed Up
    edited January 2010
    zola jesus + blessure grave = wet-dream in which goth returns to it's former glory.
  • ShadowolfShadowolf Unsigned
    edited January 2010
    Gowienczyk;3397830 said:
    The Cult kind of lost any sort of respect with me after the crap they did after Love.
    lol yeahhh >_> /shivers Not much a fan either of the stuff after
  • ShadowolfShadowolf Unsigned
    edited January 2010
    afterstasis;3397924 said:
    zola jesus + blessure grave = wet-dream in which goth returns to it's former glory.
    Nice, I actually haven't heard of Blessure Grave, I'll have fun checking 'em out!
    I adore Zola Jesus though, I totally agree!
  • afterstasisafterstasis Washed Up
    edited January 2010
    Shadowolf;3398024 said:
    Nice, I actually haven't heard of Blessure Grave, I'll have fun checking 'em out!
    I adore Zola Jesus though, I totally agree!
    i don't know anyone besides me who actually likes blessure grave.
    all i ever hear are gripes about how lo-fi and sloppy they are, so yeah, total awesomeness. :)
  • RunesmithRunesmith Headliner
    edited January 2010
    My favorites are Depeche Mode, Cold Cave, Specimen (horrifically inconsistent band but they made some awesome songs), Fields of The Nephilim, Sisters of Mercy, Southern Death Cult, My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult, The Cure, and of course Siouxsie & The Banshees.

    Looking to get into Alien Sex Fiend and Christian Death. Which album would you guys recommend for both bands? I think I might need to listen to The Birthday Party tonight in remembrance of Rowland, as well.
  • ShadowolfShadowolf Unsigned
    edited January 2010
    afterstasis;3398031 said:
    i don't know anyone besides me who actually likes blessure grave.
    all i ever hear are gripes about how lo-fi and sloppy they are, so yeah, total awesomeness. :)
    Nice, lo-fi's where it's at now anyway! ^_^ And lol, just looking at their discography now, they got an album called Unknown Blessures, hahah, how awesome. Sounds like win already =D
  • afterstasisafterstasis Washed Up
    edited January 2010
    since you're already familiar with xiu xiu and zola jesus you may already know, but the former ghosts album that came out last year was excellent...

    more on the post-punk side of things, but hey... members of xiu xiu, this song is a mess but so am i, and zola jesus together is unstoppable.
  • ShadowolfShadowolf Unsigned
    edited January 2010
    Runesmith;3398039 said:
    My favorites are Depeche Mode, Cold Cave, Specimen (horrifically inconsistent band but they made some awesome songs), Fields of The Nephilim, Sisters of Mercy, Southern Death Cult, My Life With The Thrill Kill Kult, The Cure, and of course Siouxsie & The Banshees.

    Looking to get into Alien Sex Fiend and Christian Death. Which album would you guys recommend for both bands? I think I might need to listen to The Birthday Party tonight in remembrance of Rowland, as well.
    Ah yeah, I'm just getting into Cold Cave myself.

    With ASF, that's a tough one, I don't think I've heard anyone agree on an album, haha, and I don't have everything of theirs. I personally got no particular favorite I put over another, but Acid Bath is pretty awesome. Curse is good too.

    Christian Death, Only Theatre of Pain is the crucial, definitive album. Catastrophe Ballet and Ashes are definitely worth listening too though after that.
  • ShadowolfShadowolf Unsigned
    edited January 2010
    afterstasis;3398055 said:
    since you're already familiar with xiu xiu and zola jesus you may already know, but the former ghosts album that came out last year was excellent...

    more on the post-punk side of things, but hey... members of xiu xiu, this song is a mess but so am i, and zola jesus together is unstoppable.
    Ahh, I actually didn't know Zola Jesus collaborated in this project. I only heard that Xiu Xiu and This Song is a Mess were onto something together, but didn't follow up on what it was called. I'll have to check it out for sure, exciting!! Thanks for the tidbit! =D
  • edited January 2010
    Scarlet's Remains just came up on the radio when I clicked on this thread...

    Favourite goth bands: Christian Death(Rozz, obv.), Ausgang, Alien Sex Fiend, Bloody Dead and Sexy, Cinema Strange, Sex Gang Children and Virgin Prunes.

    though the dark post-punk mentioned in the beginning is more what I'm into. The Prids and Alcian Blue are awesome.
  • ShadowolfShadowolf Unsigned
    edited January 2010
    Xerrox-Metaphaser;3398188 said:
    Scarlet's Remains just came up on the radio when I clicked on this thread...

    Favourite goth bands: Christian Death(Rozz, obv.), Ausgang, Alien Sex Fiend, Bloody Dead and Sexy, Cinema Strange, Sex Gang Children and Virgin Prunes.

    though the dark post-punk mentioned in the beginning is more what I'm into. The Prids and Alcian Blue are awesome.
    Awesome! Good list 8) Bloody Dead & Sexy are a good one too
    I love The Prids! They play often here in NoCal but I've yet to catch them live yet, d'oh. I've heard of Alcian Blue but haven't listened to their music yet, I will do that later!
  • ShadowolfShadowolf Unsigned
    edited January 2010
    afterstasis;3398031 said:
    i don't know anyone besides me who actually likes blessure grave.
    all i ever hear are gripes about how lo-fi and sloppy they are, so yeah, total awesomeness. :)
    Hehe, wow, just listened to some Blessure Grave now, you weren't kidding about lo-fi, haha. It sounds like they recorded it live or something, even; that kind of caught me by surprise. The guy has an amazing voice, he sounds so Ian, haha
  • edited January 2010
    Shadowolf;3399267 said:
    Awesome! Good list 8) Bloody Dead & Sexy are a good one too
    I love The Prids! They play often here in NoCal but I've yet to catch them live yet, d'oh. I've heard of Alcian Blue but haven't listened to their music yet, I will do that later!
    Alcian Blue is pretty cool. It's like Sisters of Mercy meets A Place to Bury Strangers.
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