cherokeesam;3533910 said:If the TOS says songs in playtesting are not confidential, then there shouldn't be a big deal about discussing them. If an artist/author *does* have a problem with it and specifically requests that information be kept quiet, I, for one, would certainly honor their request. (And, of course, if HMX specifically steps in and says not to discuss it.) Otherwise, I don't think that the privilege of having a Creators' Account was intended to keep "arcane knowledge" from those without an account, but rather to give you the privilege of actually playtesting and reviewing the songs. PS3 users, for instance, certainly don't have access to an account, and it's very unfair to keep them out of the loop when they're trying to find out the status of a favorite band's song in the RBN process.
cherokeesam;3533910 said:If the TOS says songs in playtesting are not confidential, then there shouldn't be a big deal about discussing them.
T-Hybrid;3534612 said:Perhaps then the wise move would be to name this "Songs in Playtesting" or something other than "prospective songs"....because right now I could see how the initial thread title combined with a quick perusal of just artist/song names would lead to confusion regarding the actual release status of the listed songs.Especially when there's a few other threads that have CONFIRMED songs.So why not have the thread for songs ONLY in the store and a list of songs ONLY in playtesting. Label them both clearly in the thread title so that the FHM types that scan thread titles and provide knee jerk responses (or fly off to report them via Twitter) get the point.
davidshek;3534283 said:The argument against doing this has never been that it is against the rules or that it violates the TOS. Just because something isn't against the rules doesn't necessarily mean that it's the right thing to do.
Ultrace;3534673 said:This is a tough discussion to have. On the one hand, I agree that just because the rules don't forbid something, doesn't mean you shouldn't do it. On the other hand, the only thing separating those who have this information from those who don't is a $100 subscription to a Microsoft service, the cost of which doesn't even indirectly benefit any of the bands contained within there.
kingtonyx;3534843 said:if anything it might encourage people to sign up for playtesting
cherokeesam;3532737 said:^ Yeah, having lots of trouble with staying connected during some leftover weather last night; got cut off. I'm still working on the list.....doing a lot of trimming down Wes' original; trying to match it up with the Approved list (dropping songs that have already made it through), and catching up on pretty much all of February's announcements in that thread....I've just started on the "songs in playtesting" part, but without being part of the beta myself, I'm having to rely on what shows up in the "RBN Kicks Ass" and other threads. Work-in-progress....hopefully I'll be up to speed by Sunday night.
Ultrace;3534673 said:True, Harmonix has never said they don't want people to post about DLC they discover
davidshek;3535384 said:Of course they have. How many hundreds of "This is rumored DLC!" threads have been locked and/or deleted over the last couple of years? Lots and lots. This is no different really.But I see that my words, and those of the other dozen or so people that posted against this idea in the other threads I linked, have been completely ignored, and tony has started the thread anyway. Sigh.
cherokeesam;3535406 said:And, once again, any artist, author or label who doesn't want their info released in these threads need only ask.
davidshek;3535421 said:And once again, it is not up to you (or tony or whomever) to decide what information gets released and what doesn't. If an artist or author has already announced a song is coming out, sure, feel free to post it when it goes into playtesting. I have no issue with that situation at all.But if they have not done so yet, you have NO right to post it in any "songs in playtesting" thread. The artist/author shouldn't have to go ask you not to post it, and in fact, they probably won't even know that they have to since they're most likely not regulars of this forum. THAT's what this is about. Not the above case.
cherokeesam;3535441 said:It's public information, and readily available (again, a $100 subscription to the Creators' Club does *not* require an oath of secrecy).
DragoonXD;3534804 said:s long as you have basic math skills (to set your age to be 18+ when signing up)
davidshek;3535421 said:And once again, it is not up to you (or tony or whomever) to decide what information gets released and what doesn't.
weirdphil;3536753 said:Jamestown Story popping up on that list is making me hope that some of the other local bands from Minnesota pop up there, like Quietdrive and All the Right Moves. I've already mentioned RBN to the latter through a Facebook message to their Bassist. One can dream...