Muse DLC. Period.

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  • BobbyBrownBobbyBrown Opening Act
    edited April 2008
    Asphyx1ateD;537948 said:
    Assassin would be an amazing choice for Rock Band, and especially the Grand Omega Bosses Edit version of it (the b-side to Knights Of Cydonia).

    However, I think they made a very good choice in Hysteria, as it does have a very good bassline and what I find is the bassist does get stuck with pretty boring lines in a lot of songs.

    Stockholm Syndrome would also be a good choice, especially drum-wise. The opening Plug In Baby guitar riff would be a beauty to play. Time Is Running Out would also be a great song overall. Bliss, my favourite song of Muse, would also work well.

    Easily, though, would no doubt be the perfect Muse song for Rock Band. It's only a b-side though (to Starlight) and thus isn't very well known. Its bassline is amazing though and it's very Bliss-like.
    I know it's far back, but I didn't check this thread for a day and it grew 11 pages. :eek:

    I just have to say thank you! Easily was a song I'd never heard of but after listening to it it's now up there in my Muse favorites. It's amazing how some their b-sides can top many bands' best.
  • jdre_124jdre_124 Opening Act
    edited April 2008
    Alright Computer, what is the easiest guitar centered Muse song to you? I'm going to go looking for some guitars(gonna look for a Epiphone, Yamaha, or a good old Stratocaster) within the next month and I want to download the tabs already so I can learn them before I play. I was thinking The Groove would be the easiest? Anyone else's thoughts? Also anyone have the names of stores that would sell the guitars I'm looking for?
  • TheKrazyKatzzzTheKrazyKatzzz Road Warrior
    edited April 2008
    No really, I don't know anyone that's heard Muse and not liked them.

    My girlfriend doesn't like Matt's voice... she doesn't hate it, but she doesn't like it. She says it's "too whiny-sounding". She tolerates my love for them though because she respects the acoustics.
  • BubblegumBubblegum Rising Star
    edited April 2008
    jdre_124, I've learned to play a couple Muse bits on the real guitar. May I put in my two cents?
    The Groove has some little flips that I would never have gotten when I got my first guitar (then again, I didn't even know who Muse was back then. I was 12, give me a break.). The main riff would probably be pretty easy, but fully learning the song would be rather difficult. Exo-Politics would probably be a better starting point, if you must start with Muse. (As far as Muse songs go, The Groove would be right after, but you'll probably want to throw some non-Muse stuff in your guitar-learning escapades, because most Muse is on the difficult side.)
    Also, Guitar Center has probably got what you're looking for. (And as far as I know, they're all over Texas.) I know the one I go to is generally very helpful; I didn't actually buy my guitar from there, but one of the employees both recommended me my Ibanez Mikro (yeah, I have tiny hands.) and pointed me to the last white one in Texas.
  • jdre_124jdre_124 Opening Act
    edited April 2008
    Bubblegum;541302 said:
    jdre_124, I've learned to play a couple Muse bits on the real guitar. May I put in my two cents?
    The Groove has some little flips that I would never have gotten when I got my first guitar (then again, I didn't even know who Muse was back then. I was 12, give me a break.). The main riff would probably be pretty easy, but fully learning the song would be rather difficult. Exo-Politics would probably be a better starting point, if you must start with Muse. (As far as Muse songs go, The Groove would be right after, but you'll probably want to throw some non-Muse stuff in your guitar-learning escapades, because most Muse is on the difficult side.)
    Also, Guitar Center has probably got what you're looking for. (And as far as I know, they're all over Texas.) I know the one I go to is generally very helpful; I didn't actually buy my guitar from there, but one of the employees both recommended me my Ibanez Mikro (yeah, I have tiny hands.) and pointed me to the last white one in Texas.
    Always welcome for other people's input. :D Exo-Politics huh? I'll be sure to look up the tabs. Any Muse or none-Muse songs you or anyone else would recommend for the novice guitarist?

    I was wondering, at the Guitar Centers, at the guys there pushy and talk down? I know of some specialty shopes were the guys can be real dicks. Speaking of Ibanez guitars. I was looking them up and I was really into this black one. What would you say on your guitar? I really liked the price point and it's looks but I wan't to make sure I don't get the short end with quality.:cool:

    Thanks ahead, Derek.
  • BubblegumBubblegum Rising Star
    edited April 2008
    Optimistic by Radiohead comes to mind; I learned it the other day in 15 minutes. Very easy song; the tab I used for it was from ultimate-guitar.com.
    But in an attempt to erase my days in guitar lessons from my memory (My teacher and I didn't get along, but then again, I guess I asked for it by taking lessons in front of my former church.), I've forgotten all of the songs I learned as a novice.

    I've not yet had a run-in with anyone like that at a Guitar Center. Most of the nasty people (both employees and customers) tend to stay away from Guitar Center (at least, the ones I've been to, which includes one in Houston and one in Spring) in favor of little non-chain shops.

    Well, my Ibanez was a starter guitar, and I'm betting the one you're looking at is as well, if it's at a low price. It's very playable, and I've been pleased with mine so far.
    With any new guitar you get, you'll want to take it to a shop that fixes up guitars (the aforementioned little non-chain shops, though sometimes full of elitists, will often do a great job of fixing up guitars.) and get them to tweak it a bit so that it holds a tune better, especially if you're planning to play Muse somewhere down the road, because a bunch of their songs use the higher octave and if your intonation is off, it will sound positively terrible.
    Starting out, and for most of practicing at all, plugging in the guitar for funsies is a waste of electricity and an annoyance to roommates/neighbors/family/etc. But down the road, you'll probably want to get the pickups replaced. Makes miles of difference when you plug into an amp.
    Is Plug in Baby stuck in your head yet?

    That turned out much longer than I expected.
    Back on-topic, sorta.
    Plug in Baby is seriously fun to play on guitar. I'm not very good at the riff, but it's still fun. I'm pretty good at Hysteria, though. I'd probably be better if I did more picking drills, but I can still play it, for the most part (The main bass riff transferred to guitar, too. That's some fun stuff.) I've learned some more stuff, but those are the main ones I practice.
    It was a couple pages back, but whatever.
    My friends all have different opinions about Muse.
    My friend who listens pretty exclusively to Christian pop-rock actually admitted that Hysteria sounded pretty cool.
    My pop-listening friend thinks their sound is too depressing. (Surprise, surprise.)
    And my Radiohead-obsessed friend's very first comment was "OMG, he sounds like Thom Yorke!" (Predictable, though Matt's voice is a little brighter and... often higher.) I don't know what he thought of the rest of the music, though.
  • MusePTMusePT Rising Star
    edited April 2008
    Alright_Computer;540605 said:
    Wow. I bet there were a lot of teen girls with too much eyeliner at the show. And if I were Matt, I wouldn't have covered it with a laugh. Really. That may have been why they agreed to do it, they actually wanted MCR fans to hear good music. Not the crap their favorite band usually makes.
    In the 2nd Wembley Show, MCR where one of the opening acts for Muse... I went in the 1st day so I don't know if they were good or not... I know only the most played songs from radio and tv so I don't have an opinion on their music!
  • ViljoViljo Unsigned
    edited April 2008
    Stockholm Syndrom is a must.
  • TakeABowTakeABow Road Warrior
    edited April 2008
    MusePT;541556 said:
    In the 2nd Wembley Show, MCR where one of the opening acts for Muse... I went in the 1st day so I don't know if they were good or not... I know only the most played songs from radio and tv so I don't have an opinion on their music!
    I promise you are better off having not seen MCR in concert.
  • ColdplayerColdplayer Headliner
    edited April 2008
    MusePT;540429 said:
    OMG... just came here after posting the new sig earlier and PUM 6 new pages!!! You guys are monsters!!!! :p
    This thread is really a monster, growing so fast, unbelievable. I mean, Muse is good, but I've never expected them to get such a fast growing thread. Why isn't the Radiohead thread so big? (Probably because we already have them in the game)

    Anyways, @TakeABow: I will watch this video later, since I want to listen to Invincible a few more times before I watch a live performance.
  • TakeABowTakeABow Road Warrior
    edited April 2008
    Coldplayer;541771 said:
    This thread is really a monster, growing so fast, unbelievable. I mean, Muse is good, but I've never expected them to get such a fast growing thread. Why isn't the Radiohead thread so big? (Probably because we already have them in the game)

    Anyways, @TakeABow: I will watch this video later, since I want to listen to Invincible a few more times before I watch a live performance.
    Seeing Invincible performed live catapaulted it from a song I liked alot, but by no means my favorite, to my favorite song. That same show was when Muse leapfrogged Radiohead for me to become my favorite band.

    I'm glad you like BHaR. I can't wait to see where they go next. Rumor has it they considered hiring a orchestra, and they are planning to make thier music even more electronic. Whatever they are coming up with, it will be self-produced, and released late this year or early next year.
  • ColdplayerColdplayer Headliner
    edited April 2008
    TakeABow;541814 said:
    Seeing Invincible performed live catapaulted it from a song I liked alot, but by no means my favorite, to my favorite song. That same show was when Muse leapfrogged Radiohead for me to become my favorite band.

    I'm glad you like BHaR. I can't wait to see where they go next. Rumor has it they considered hiring a orchestra, and they are planning to make thier music even more electronic. Whatever they are coming up with, it will be self-produced, and released late this year or early next year.
    Yeah, let's wait and see.

    BH&R would actually be perfect as full album DLC, I would love it. It has so much variety with great melodies like in Starlight and Invincible, just popular songs like Supermassive Black Hole and Knights of Cydonia and Queenish songs like Soldier's Poem. :p (The many voices really reminded me of Queen)
    Oh yes, or really hard rocking songs like Assassin.
  • TakeABowTakeABow Road Warrior
    edited April 2008
    Coldplayer;541844 said:
    Yeah, let's wait and see.

    BH&R would actually be perfect as full album DLC, I would love it.
    There are a few small issues with a couple songs. But yeah, for the most part it would work.
  • ColdplayerColdplayer Headliner
    edited April 2008
    TakeABow;541850 said:
    There are a few small issues with a couple songs. But yeah, for the most part it would work.
    Hey, slow down, I wasn't even finished editing my post. :p

    (No wonder this thread is so long :D )
  • TakeABowTakeABow Road Warrior
    edited April 2008
    Coldplayer;541854 said:
    Hey, slow down, I wasn't even finished editing my post. :p

    (No wonder this thread is so long :D )
    I get excited.
  • BonezBonez Road Warrior
    edited April 2008
    Getting on the computer on the weekends is next to impossible for me...coming on here and reading 20 new pages since Friday totally made up for the crappy weekend I had. This thread is glorious! :D

    Matt would be so proud of your egg-salad conspiracy theory. That was just hysterical.

    It's awesome to see how many people are looking into guitars now because of Muse! Plug-in Baby is insane amounts of fun to play. I've taken on the huge responsibility of trying to learn all of their songs; there have been talks of a cover band amongst myself, my friend and my brother. We'll see...either way it would be sweet to just sit down and play any Muse song my heart desires. They can get rather complicated though.

    For those of you looking at guitars, you should seriously give some thought to Jackson. They are so overlooked in the guitar world, but they make fantastic guitars. I was so excited to see them in RB. They can be a little pricey, but you can usually find great deals on them at Guitar Center, and they're worth every penny. My guitar's list price was $800, I got it for $500. Most of them come with EMG-HZ pickups as standard equipment, and as far as pickups go, they're among the best. Compared to my Strat, my Jackson's tone is just beautiful. Just avoid the Floyd Rose locking tremolo's if you can...I have one, and my guitar has been out of commission for a couple years now because it's so messed up and I haven't had time to take it to be fixed. That's the only negative thing I've come across with it though.

    Sorry for the guitar novel...they just make me excited.
  • SveppiSveppi Road Warrior
    edited April 2008
    We're up to Five star again :D also, I went to school then I came back and *poof* 8 pages. At this rate we'll hit 100 pages by Thursday :)
  • TakeABowTakeABow Road Warrior
    edited April 2008
    Bonez;542164 said:
    Getting on the computer on the weekends is next to impossible for me...coming on here and reading 20 new pages since Friday totally made up for the crappy weekend I had. This thread is glorious! :D

    Matt would be so proud of your egg-salad conspiracy theory. That was just hysterical.

    It's awesome to see how many people are looking into guitars now because of Muse! Plug-in Baby is insane amounts of fun to play. I've taken on the huge responsibility of trying to learn all of their songs; there have been talks of a cover band amongst myself, my friend and my brother. We'll see...either way it would be sweet to just sit down and play any Muse song my heart desires. They can get rather complicated though.

    For those of you looking at guitars, you should seriously give some thought to Jackson. They are so overlooked in the guitar world, but they make fantastic guitars. I was so excited to see them in RB. They can be a little pricey, but you can usually find great deals on them at Guitar Center, and they're worth every penny. My guitar's list price was $800, I got it for $500. Most of them come with EMG-HZ pickups as standard equipment, and as far as pickups go, they're among the best. Compared to my Strat, my Jackson's tone is just beautiful. Just avoid the Floyd Rose locking tremolo's if you can...I have one, and my guitar has been out of commission for a couple years now because it's so messed up and I haven't had time to take it to be fixed. That's the only negative thing I've come across with it though.

    Sorry for the guitar novel...they just make me excited.
    I am looking into getting an Epiphone Les Paul, I can get one with list price of 1100 for about 550. My guitar-playing friends recommend them highly. Any input on the sort of amp I should get?
  • sattyriasissattyriasis Unsigned
    edited April 2008
    Blackholes and Revelations needs to be a full album release. Absolution is freaking awesome, but a good chunk of the songs is piano heavy and it probably wouldn't translate well. Origin of Symmetry also has amazing songs. Actually, any of their songs are good for the game. Hysteria is an amazing first song for release, but please don't stop there. Muse will get my MS Points on the first day.
  • FatWilmaFatWilma Road Warrior
    edited April 2008
    TakeABow;542659 said:
    I am looking into getting an Epiphone Les Paul, I can get one with list price of 1100 for about 550. My guitar-playing friends recommend them highly. Any input on the sort of amp I should get?
    in my experience with (real) Les Pauls, Marshall amps sound great with them. however, i wouldn't recommend getting a tube amp, those are a b*tch for maintanence, but i'm lazy. i had a Crate tube amp, and it sounded awesome, but replacing tubes sucks. Marshall makes great solid state amps. if i had a Les Paul, thats what i would get.

    i now have a lil Crate 10" solid state amp for my Strat and it sounds good for as cheap as it was. if all u want is a small, cheap amp, i would recommend that.

    btw, finally watched HAARP. what can i say that hasn't already been said, its live Muse. of course it rocks. i wish they would have jammed some more songs out, those were my favorite parts, when they would extend a solo or add lil riffs at then end. i forget what song it was, but i swear he played almost the exact solo from Bulls On Parade.
  • TakeABowTakeABow Road Warrior
    edited April 2008
    FatWilma;542811 said:
    in my experience with (real) Les Pauls, Marshall amps sound great with them. however, i wouldn't recommend getting a tube amp, those are a b*tch for maintanence, but i'm lazy. i had a Crate tube amp, and it sounded awesome, but replacing tubes sucks. Marshall makes great solid state amps. if i had a Les Paul, thats what i would get.

    i now have a lil Crate 10" solid state amp for my Strat and it sounds good for as cheap as it was. if all u want is a small, cheap amp, i would recommend that.

    btw, finally watched HAARP. what can i say that hasn't already been said, its live Muse. of course it rocks. i wish they would have jammed some more songs out, those were my favorite parts, when they would extend a solo or add lil riffs at then end. i forget what song it was, but i swear he played almost the exact solo from Bulls On Parade.
    Thanks for the input. Matt plays a random improv solo after Starlight. He also plays the solo from another song after Stockholm Syndrome, but it eludes me at the moment. And random bits all over, fantastic stuff.
  • FatWilmaFatWilma Road Warrior
    edited April 2008
    yeah, i'm pretty sure its the end of Stockholm Syndrome. its just a lil part, he plays almost the exact notes from the Bulls On Parade solo (probably unintentional, i just noticed it immediately).
  • vicious136vicious136 Rising Star
    edited April 2008
    Whaaaaaa!? I leave for a sec and 10 pages show up! I was on here yesterday! This is madness. At this rate, we'll be at 100 pages in no time! I'd also like to note that this thread has the most replies of any Ultimate Setlist thread that deals with one band. We're #4 overall right now.
    FatWilma;542811 said:
    in my experience with (real) Les Pauls, Marshall amps sound great with them. however, i wouldn't recommend getting a tube amp, those are a b*tch for maintanence, but i'm lazy. i had a Crate tube amp, and it sounded awesome, but replacing tubes sucks. Marshall makes great solid state amps. if i had a Les Paul, thats what i would get.

    i now have a lil Crate 10" solid state amp for my Strat and it sounds good for as cheap as it was. if all u want is a small, cheap amp, i would recommend that.
    If I had the money (and didn't live in an apartment) I would jump all over a marshall 4x12 cab and tube amp. A buddy of mine had one in high-school and it sounds phenomenal, especially when you crank it up. Mesa Boogie makes good "stacks" as well, great crunchy distortion.

    I've got a small Fender solid-state amp now and it's got good sound but I don't think solid-states will ever touch the full, warm sound of a tube amp. Tubes are a pain in the butt though.
    FatWilma;542839 said:
    yeah, i'm pretty sure its the end of Stockholm Syndrome. its just a lil part, he plays almost the exact notes from the Bulls On Parade solo (probably unintentional, i just noticed it immediately).
    That is awesome. I totally didn't notice that, now I'll have to go back and watch it again! I doubt it was unintentional. Matt's got a pretty vast knowledge of all things musical and he's got the talent to replicate pretty much whatever he wants so I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he threw that in just for "S's & G's" just like he did with the note progression from Close Encounters.
  • TakeABowTakeABow Road Warrior
    edited April 2008
    Got it: He plays the riff from Maggie's Farm at the end of Stockholm Syndrome.

    Sick stuff.

    For comparison: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-VRgaAHNNT8
  • FatWilmaFatWilma Road Warrior
    edited April 2008
    well, it sounds LIKE the Bulls on Parade notes, doesn't really sound like the actual solo. it doesn't have the swipe & scratch sound to it like Morello plays. it just sounds similiar. thats why i said it probably wasnt intentional, but who knows.

    edit: it might have been at the end of a diff song, i'll try to watch it again tonight and verify that.

    back on the subject of amps, if i was gettin a stack, it would def be Marshall. i was never a fan of Mesa/Boogie. like u said, i always thought they sounded kinda funny.

    Fender makes a really good combo amp too. I have a 15" Fender bass amp that rocks. for 1 15" speaker, the thing is a beast.
  • SveppiSveppi Road Warrior
    edited April 2008
    vicious136;542887 said:

    That is awesome. I totally didn't notice that, now I'll have to go back and watch it again! I doubt it was unintentional. Matt's got a pretty vast knowledge of all things musical and he's got the talent to replicate pretty much whatever he wants so I wouldn't be a bit surprised if he threw that in just for "S's & G's" just like he did with the note progression from Close Encounters.
    I just listened to the Royal Albert Hall concert from April 12th. He does the Close Encounters thing there too, it's become a sort of intro for Knights of Cydonia :) www.musewiki.org has pretty good info on they're gigs.
  • BonezBonez Road Warrior
    edited April 2008
    Actually, if you look at the credits in the booklet, they credit several RATM songs (I'm forgetting the others at the moment), as well as Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

    TakeABow...Les Pauls are great! My brother has an Epi, and he loves it. As far as amps go, no one can touch Marshall. Unfortunately, they're expensive, and most take up a ton of room. The only ones I've ever played on were at Guitar Center, and that was just wishful thinking. I have a Crate MX15R...it's been discontinued for a few years now (not surprising since I bought it six years ago), but for a small amp it has fantastic sound. I'm sure they've replaced it with another 15 watt that's just as good. I'm currently lusting for this one. I was messing around with it the last time I was at GC, and it was wonderful. If you're looking for something bigger than a 15w, check that bad boy out. It's even got a built in tuner, which is just genius. Crate's are really good at mimicking the tube amp sound for a solid-state company. I highly recommend them if you can't get a Marshall.
  • TakeABowTakeABow Road Warrior
    edited April 2008
    Bonez;542964 said:
    Actually, if you look at the credits in the booklet, they credit several RATM songs (I'm forgetting the others at the moment), as well as Close Encounters of the Third Kind.

    TakeABow...Les Pauls are great! My brother has an Epi, and he loves it. As far as amps go, no one can touch Marshall. Unfortunately, they're expensive, and most take up a ton of room. The only ones I've ever played on were at Guitar Center, and that was just wishful thinking. I have a Crate MX15R...it's been discontinued for a few years now (not surprising since I bought it six years ago), but for a small amp it has fantastic sound. I'm sure they've replaced it with another 15 watt that's just as good. I'm currently lusting for this one. I was messing around with it the last time I was at GC, and it was wonderful. If you're looking for something bigger than a 15w, check that bad boy out. It's even got a built in tuner, which is just genius. Crate's are really good at mimicking the tube amp sound for a solid-state company. I highly recommend them if you can't get a Marshall.
    Thanks for the advice. That Crate looks pretty sweet.
  • SveppiSveppi Road Warrior
    edited April 2008
    I seriously have to play my guitar more, the only thing I can remember is the Smoke on the Water riff. I could actually play the piano intro to Starlight, the live intro to Bliss and the piano bit in New Born pretty well, can't really remember how to play them now :(
  • S1ckH4ndsS1ckH4nds YouTube Guru
    edited April 2008
    Hrm. Honestly, I hadn't really heard of Muse prior to GHIII. But since I found myself playing it yesterday, and revisiting Knights Of Cydonia, I decided to finally give their full length a shot. So after downloading Black Holes & Revelations based on that track alone, I was really surprised to hear such a diverse album; I don't think a single track on there sounds like any of the others. I was really surprised at the near synth-poppy opener. But all in all, it's a fascinating release, and I'd love to see it made available as DLC for RB.
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