Do you consider people who release a lot of music sellouts?

CEEDZ13CEEDZ13 Road Warrior
edited July 2010 in History of Rock
Just curious. Like Zappa and that Jandek guy who have 40-60 albums a peice.

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  • citizenCEROcitizenCERO Road Warrior
    edited June 2010
    Foxy Shazam sold out on their third album, so it's not like amount of music has anything to do with selling out.
  • Alright_ComputerAlright_Computer Butt Neck
    edited June 2010
    CEEDZ13;3816768 said:
    I was just using a couple of examples of people who release(d) a lot of music.
    It's not how much you release, it's what you release that makes you a sellout.

    /thread
  • Rocket2RussiaRocket2Russia Road Warrior
    edited June 2010
    Alright_Computer;3816774 said:
    It's not how much you release, it's what you release that makes you a sellout.

    /thread
    +1

    Also, never post the bacon meme in HoR again. ****'s ******ed. GAH! EDIT: Stuff is dumb.
  • CubecubedCubecubed Washed Up
    edited June 2010
    I think calling anybody a sellout is stupid. its a stupid word.
  • CEEDZ13CEEDZ13 Road Warrior
    edited June 2010
    The reason I was thinking of this was because of the amount of money these people must make with all of these albums, whether it's a hardcore fan that collects everything you have or a newcomer who turns out to not even like it. The popular artists with mass music out like Zappa must be (or.. have been) like kajillionares or something. Just a thought.
    Cubecubed;3816781 said:
    I think calling anybody a sellout is stupid. its a stupid word.
    Why is that? If a heavy metal band changes to pop-rock to please the audience, that's not a sellout?
  • neckermanncjneckermanncj Washed Up
    edited June 2010
    do your homework before posting about something you don't know about
  • CubecubedCubecubed Washed Up
    edited June 2010
    CEEDZ13;3816792 said:
    The reason I was thinking of this was because of the amount of money these people must make with all of these albums, whether it's a hardcore fan that collects everything you have or a newcomer who turns out to not even like it. The popular artists with mass music out like Zappa must be (or.. have been) like kajillionares or something. Just a thought.



    Why is that? If a heavy metal band changes to pop-rock to please the audience, that's not a sellout?
    i just don't like the word.Its the most cliche word possible.
  • afterstasisafterstasis Washed Up
    edited June 2010
    trve artists release one demo tape and nothing more!
  • CEEDZ13CEEDZ13 Road Warrior
    edited June 2010
    neckermanncj;3816800 said:
    do your homework before posting about something you don't know about
    Who was that directed to? I actually posted the thread asking an opinion. I know what a sellout is.
  • TheCoolGuyTheCoolGuy Road Warrior
    edited June 2010
    To answer the question: Yes, only if you have an incredibly loose definition of "sell-out".
  • Rocket2RussiaRocket2Russia Road Warrior
    edited June 2010
    They can never sell out of albums if they make enough.
  • exploderexploder Road Warrior
    edited June 2010
    IDIOTS
    changing styles isn't selling out
  • FizzelerFizzeler Washed Up
    edited June 2010
    CEEDZ13;3816792 said:
    The reason I was thinking of this was because of the amount of money these people must make with all of these albums, whether it's a hardcore fan that collects everything you have or a newcomer who turns out to not even like it. The popular artists with mass music out like Zappa must be (or.. have been) like kajillionares or something. Just a thought.
    Someone needs to read The Real Frank Zappa
    afterstasis;3816842 said:
    trve artists release one demo tape and nothing more!
    Icecross! :D
  • Rocket2RussiaRocket2Russia Road Warrior
    edited June 2010
    exploder;3816972 said:
    IDIOTS
    changing styles isn't selling out
    Changing it in order to make money as the chief reason IS.
  • 40FootWolf40FootWolf Opening Act
    edited June 2010
    I'm not sure if it's possible to be less of a sellout than Frank Zappa, so I'm going to go with E: "This was a nonsensical question to begin with".
  • afterstasisafterstasis Washed Up
    edited June 2010
    40FootWolf;3817051 said:
    I'm not sure if it's possible to be less of a sellout than Frank Zappa, so I'm going to go with E: "This was a nonsensical question to begin with".
    well, in the OP he did mention jandek, who rejected all interviews, did all his recording himself, self-released every one of those recordings on his own imprint, and only recently started playing the occasional live show after over 30 years of genuinely reclusive music production.

    and that's not to mention his incredibly difficult music!
    jandek is one of the most obvious embodiments of anti-commercialism in recent music history.

    EDIT: it looks like someone has the jandek on corwood dvd on youtube... here's part one if you're interested (you can find the other parts via the same YT user).
    it's a good watch.
  • polishdog90polishdog90 Road Warrior
    edited June 2010
    There is no problem with people who have a large amount of artistic output. Hell, they should be praised in comparison to those who spend all their time with their newly earned money partying instead of working.
  • JukeBoxHeroJukeBoxHero Headliner
    edited June 2010
    Ah, but the thing with that is that some people put a lot of time into working on their music. Certain bands won't release music for years but when they do it's top notch and well though out.
  • afterstasisafterstasis Washed Up
    edited June 2010
    wolf eyes and acid mothers temple must be swimming in cash. ;)
  • Mystlyfe77Mystlyfe77 Big Fan
    edited June 2010
    Rocket2Russia;3816779 said:
    +1

    Also, never post the bacon meme in HoR again. ****'s ******ed. GAH! EDIT: Stuff is dumb.
    I beg to differ.
  • Buffdog18Buffdog18 Headliner
    edited June 2010
    No, but more importantly, bacon.
  • Rocket2RussiaRocket2Russia Road Warrior
    edited June 2010
    Mystlyfe77;3817312 said:
    bacon as an accessory in those situations is no meme, but a gift from the pig gods.
  • Mystlyfe77Mystlyfe77 Big Fan
    edited June 2010
    Rocket2Russia;3817360 said:
    bacon as an accessory in those situations is no meme, but a gift from the pig gods.
    Bacon as a meme/cultural phenomenon helped lead to the development of that situation.
  • afterstasisafterstasis Washed Up
    edited June 2010
    i was thinking, i released at least 5 albums from various solo and communal projects in 2004, and at least 6 releases the following year.

    i went in the hole at least two thousand bucks and i was rolling with mega-cheap packaging and making an actual effort to sell stuff back in those days.
  • MrFruitLordMrFruitLord Headliner
    edited June 2010
    afterstasis;3816842 said:
    trve artists release one demo tape and nothing more!
    Dude, I'm in an Indie band that's so legit we recorded 4 songs, and haven't even released them yet, and probably never will.

    We were also so lo fi we used a half broken video camera to record our music.
  • Mystlyfe77Mystlyfe77 Big Fan
    edited June 2010
    MrFruitLord;3817568 said:

    We were also so lo fi we used a half broken video camera to record our music.
    I recorded my black metal demo with a tape recorder on the receiving end of a Nazi radio as we transmitted our live performance via radio from inside of a church that was burning down in the middle of the woods.

    It's only going to be distributed on cardboard LP. The run is limited to 6.66 copies.
  • MrFruitLordMrFruitLord Headliner
    edited June 2010
    Live performances are not kvlt, krieg, legit, or Indie, or any other form of bull**** credit.

    You can't one up me.
  • Mystlyfe77Mystlyfe77 Big Fan
    edited June 2010
    Live performance was the wrong wording. We were simply recording "live." The trvest way of recording. Also the radio was used by super-Hitler.
  • supernova1324supernova1324 Headliner
    edited June 2010
    Also, the whole thing took place in Norway.
  • MrFruitLordMrFruitLord Headliner
    edited June 2010
    Norway's too well known. Has to be some place that isn't famous like my hallway next to the laundry room.
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