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  • instantdeath999instantdeath999 Washed Up
    edited August 2010
    killer_roach;3961198 said:
    Bleach is even more overrated of a Nirvana album than Nevermind.

    Gowienczyk;3961209 said:
    Not as much as In Utero, though.


    By commercial standards, by Nirvana fan standards, or by random people on message boards standards?
    killer_roach;3961198 said:


    It's a travesty that we haven't seen more bands trying to revive the various styles of 80s music.

    What annoys me more is when bands add a synthesizer to one of their songs, and say in interviews, "we were going for an 80's feel on that one".



    As for Nirvana... I'd say In Utero is their best, with Nevermind and Bleach on the same level for entirely different reasons.
  • GowienczykGowienczyk Pooper of Parties
    edited August 2010
    by Nirvana fan standards
    Also In Utero is their most creative and adventurous, but it falls flat on being completely dull and mediocre. Nevermind is Nirvana almost completely removed from their noise rock/noise punk roots and is hit/miss. Bleach is their noise rock/punk prime and has their best material.
  • TheRollingBonesTheRollingBones Headliner
    edited August 2010
    Gowienczyk;3961218 said:
    Hahaha, no it's really not.
    People around here seem to believe that since the first three songs are played so much, they aren't good, and since the album was a huge hit, saying it was their best would be way too "mainstream" and "uncool". But that's not my thang.
  • killer_roachkiller_roach Washed Up
    edited August 2010
    Gowienczyk;3961240 said:
    Bleach is their noise rock/punk prime and has their best material.
    Precisely why it's so overrated :)
  • GowienczykGowienczyk Pooper of Parties
    edited August 2010
    People around here seem to believe that since the first three songs are played so much, they aren't good
    I like every song on Nevermind and you really don't know the forum members at all if you think 'cool' and 'mainstream' are factors.
  • KBeatle96KBeatle96 Road Warrior
    edited August 2010
    I think OK Computer is overrated, and I like Early Beatles more than late Beatles.
  • TheRollingBonesTheRollingBones Headliner
    edited August 2010
    Gowienczyk;3961253 said:
    I like every song on Nevermind and you really don't know the forum members at all if you think 'cool' and 'mainstream' are factors.
    Not talking about you specifically. And btw, just because you read posts by a person on a video game forum doesn't mean you know them at all.
  • GowienczykGowienczyk Pooper of Parties
    edited August 2010
    TheRollingBones;3961258 said:
    Not talking about you specifically. And btw, just because you read posts by a person on a video game forum doesn't mean you know them at all.
    :rolleyes:
  • FlyGuyLXIFlyGuyLXI Headl!ner
    edited August 2010
    Aside from their last couple of albums before Something for Everybody, I found Q: Are We Not Men? A: We Are Devo! rather average.
  • TheRollingBonesTheRollingBones Headliner
    edited August 2010
    Gowienczyk;3961261 said:
    :rolleyes:
    Phew *wipes brow*. I was sure you were going to go all Gowie on me with that comment.

    ;)
  • Rocket2RussiaRocket2Russia Road Warrior
    edited August 2010
    He eye rolled because you said not to judge people by posts after you did so.
  • DeviateRogueDeviateRogue Opening Act
    edited August 2010
    instantdeath999;3960781 said:
    I can see some merit in Nickelback, and really haven't listened to ICP enough to comment. However, I think that pretty much every band falling under the crunk core genre, particularly brokeNCYDE, are all very adept at doing everything possible horribly wrong.
    I find Family Force 5 entertaining but that's just me ;)

    Also I actually enjoyed St.Anger. :eek:
  • GowienczykGowienczyk Pooper of Parties
    edited August 2010
    Also consider most of the reg's do talk to each other offsite; whether on instant messengers, p2p or w/e.
  • QuaszarQuaszar Opening Act
    edited August 2010
    Favorite Pink Floyd cd is Animals
    Favorite Yes cd is Drama
    Led Zeppelin II is their worst cd not counting Coda....
  • TheRollingBonesTheRollingBones Headliner
    edited August 2010
    Fair enough, but still. I wouldn't say you 'know' anyone until you've met them for real.
  • clashcityrocker10clashcityrocker10 Headliner
    edited August 2010
    Quaszar;3961281 said:
    Favorite Pink Floyd cd is Animals
    That's actually not all that unpopular.
  • instantdeath999instantdeath999 Washed Up
    edited August 2010
    Gowienczyk;3961240 said:
    Also In Utero is their most creative and adventurous, but it falls flat on being completely dull and mediocre. Nevermind is Nirvana almost completely removed from their noise rock/noise punk roots and is hit/miss. Bleach is their noise rock/punk prime and has their best material.
    Just a few comments on each.

    Bleach- I agree it has their best material in a song-by-song basis, but I feel like a lot of it was in imitation of their peers. Not that that's a bad thing, but I think they display the least amount of individuality on the album.

    Nevermind- Slightly overproduced, though has some fantastic songs (Something in the Way, Drain You, Lithium). The faster paced songs don't work as well, like Stay Away and Territorial Pissings.

    In Utero- I personally disagree about it being dull. I find "Scentless Apprentice", "Pennyroyal Tea", and "All Apologies" as exciting as anything on Bleach.
  • GowienczykGowienczyk Pooper of Parties
    edited August 2010
    TheRollingBones;3961285 said:
    Fair enough, but still. I wouldn't say you 'know' anyone until you've met them for real.
    This is completely incorrect, while some people mask their social ineptitude through the internet; their posts and typing is an extension of them and sometimes more honestly them (I'm a pretty reserved dude in reality for example, but I can be honest to myself and others online due to me not having that social ineptitude on the computer). You learn about peoples opinions, perspectives, viewpoints, quirks, dislikes, etc. all through posts and instant messenger. This is who somebody is, not to the extent of their quirks offsite the PC, but do not assume I don't know anyone because I talk to them on a digital box.
  • edited August 2010
    Serve The Servants is a great tune.
  • instantdeath999instantdeath999 Washed Up
    edited August 2010
    I'm a lot nicer on the internet than I am in real life.
  • GowienczykGowienczyk Pooper of Parties
    edited August 2010
    instantdeath999;3961291 said:
    Just a few comments on each.

    Bleach- I agree it has their best material in a song-by-song basis, but I feel like a lot of it was in imitation of their peers. Not that that's a bad thing, but I think they display the least amount of individuality on the album.

    Nevermind- Slightly overproduced, though has some fantastic songs (Something in the Way, Drain You, Lithium). The faster paced songs don't work as well, like Stay Away and Territorial Pissings.

    In Utero- I personally disagree about it being dull. I find "Scentless Apprentice", "Pennyroyal Tea", and "All Apologies" as exciting as anything on Bleach.
    I really don't find it driving, interesting, exciting. It's their most progressive-- I will not deny it, but I do not see the quality in it otherwise. Meh.

    ALSO IMITATION ISNT ALWAYS BADZ

    Oh yeah, Territorial Pissings rules.
  • edited August 2010
    I thought Pissings was censored, and yes it does rule.
  • MrFruitLordMrFruitLord Headliner
    edited August 2010
    I like the Red Chord.
  • instantdeath999instantdeath999 Washed Up
    edited August 2010
    Gowienczyk;3961310 said:
    I really don't find it driving, interesting, exciting. It's their most progressive-- I will not deny it, but I do not see the quality in it otherwise. Meh.

    ALSO IMITATION ISNT ALWAYS BADZ

    Oh yeah, Territorial Pissings rules.
    I really like TP, though I think it would have sounded even better if it were on Bleach. Just a speculation, though.

    As for the imitation thing, true, and I'm probably relating too much of it to what I've read. It really seems like the label was pushing for a highly specific sound (grunge), and Kurt was really only to diverge from that sound on "About a Girl" (which, somewhat ironically, is one of the weaker tracks in my opinion).
  • GowienczykGowienczyk Pooper of Parties
    edited August 2010
    I really like TP, though I think it would have sounded even better if it were on Bleach. Just a speculation, though.
    Breed and TP do sound like they are Bleach-era songwriting, yeah.

    Also, I feel Bleach is far more noise rock akin to The Jesus Lizard than grunge.
  • edited August 2010
    instantdeath999;3961323 said:
    I really like TP, though I think it would have sounded even better if it were on Bleach. Just a speculation, though.

    As for the imitation thing, true, and I'm probably relating too much of it to what I've read. It really seems like the label was pushing for a highly specific sound (grunge), and Kurt was really only to diverge from that sound on "About a Girl" (which, somewhat ironically, is one of the weaker tracks in my opinion).
    Agreed
  • TheRollingBonesTheRollingBones Headliner
    edited August 2010
    Gowienczyk;3961304 said:
    This is completely incorrect, while some people mask their social ineptitude through the internet; their posts and typing is an extension of them and sometimes more honestly them (I'm a pretty reserved dude in reality for example, but I can be honest to myself and others online due to me not having that social ineptitude on the computer). You learn about peoples opinions, perspectives, viewpoints, quirks, dislikes, etc. all through posts and instant messenger. This is who somebody is, not to the extent of their quirks offsite the PC, but do not assume I don't know anyone because I talk to them on a digital box.
    Fair enough, you can know some things about people through online messengers and posts, and may be able to correctly assume that you know them fairly well, but nothing digital replaces real speech to someone. For example, if I saw 10 regulars here, and talked to them for a few minutes, I likely wouldn't be able to pick many out.

    Regardless, this thread couldn't be more off-topic, so let's get back to whatever.
  • instantdeath999instantdeath999 Washed Up
    edited August 2010
    Gowienczyk;3961327 said:
    Breed and TP do sound like they are Bleach-era songwriting, yeah.

    Also, I feel Bleach is far more noise rock akin to The Jesus Lizard than grunge.
    That would make sense, since I'm pretty sure Kurt gave The Jesus Lizard lots of free advertising.
  • DeviateRogueDeviateRogue Opening Act
    edited August 2010
    Also, I find Nirvana is highly overrated, as well as Cobain supposedly being a great singer/guitarist. Not saying Nirvana sucks, just highly overrated.
  • GowienczykGowienczyk Pooper of Parties
    edited August 2010
    TheRollingBones;3961330 said:
    Fair enough, you can know some things about people through online messengers and posts, and may be able to correctly assume that you know them fairly well, but nothing digital replaces real speech to someone. For example, if I saw 10 regulars here, and talked to them for a few minutes, I likely wouldn't be able to pick many out.

    Regardless, this thread couldn't be more off-topic, so let's get back to whatever.
    I've known King Progdor online since 2006, I vacationed in Maine on a urge in 2009-- he was completely as expected due to our conversations and me knowing him on a online forum. None of my social awkwardness came out due to that comfort from knowing him and his viewpoints.

    =/
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