killer_roach;3961198 said:Bleach is even more overrated of a Nirvana album than Nevermind.
Gowienczyk;3961209 said:Not as much as In Utero, though.
killer_roach;3961198 said:It's a travesty that we haven't seen more bands trying to revive the various styles of 80s music.
by Nirvana fan standards
Gowienczyk;3961218 said:Hahaha, no it's really not.
Gowienczyk;3961240 said:Bleach is their noise rock/punk prime and has their best material.
People around here seem to believe that since the first three songs are played so much, they aren't good
Gowienczyk;3961253 said:I like every song on Nevermind and you really don't know the forum members at all if you think 'cool' and 'mainstream' are factors.
TheRollingBones;3961258 said:Not talking about you specifically. And btw, just because you read posts by a person on a video game forum doesn't mean you know them at all.
instantdeath999;3960781 said:I can see some merit in Nickelback, and really haven't listened to ICP enough to comment. However, I think that pretty much every band falling under the crunk core genre, particularly brokeNCYDE, are all very adept at doing everything possible horribly wrong.
Quaszar;3961281 said:Favorite Pink Floyd cd is Animals
Gowienczyk;3961240 said:Also In Utero is their most creative and adventurous, but it falls flat on being completely dull and mediocre. Nevermind is Nirvana almost completely removed from their noise rock/noise punk roots and is hit/miss. Bleach is their noise rock/punk prime and has their best material.
TheRollingBones;3961285 said:Fair enough, but still. I wouldn't say you 'know' anyone until you've met them for real.
instantdeath999;3961291 said:Just a few comments on each. Bleach- I agree it has their best material in a song-by-song basis, but I feel like a lot of it was in imitation of their peers. Not that that's a bad thing, but I think they display the least amount of individuality on the album.Nevermind- Slightly overproduced, though has some fantastic songs (Something in the Way, Drain You, Lithium). The faster paced songs don't work as well, like Stay Away and Territorial Pissings.In Utero- I personally disagree about it being dull. I find "Scentless Apprentice", "Pennyroyal Tea", and "All Apologies" as exciting as anything on Bleach.
Gowienczyk;3961310 said:I really don't find it driving, interesting, exciting. It's their most progressive-- I will not deny it, but I do not see the quality in it otherwise. Meh.ALSO IMITATION ISNT ALWAYS BADZOh yeah, Territorial Pissings rules.
I really like TP, though I think it would have sounded even better if it were on Bleach. Just a speculation, though.
instantdeath999;3961323 said:I really like TP, though I think it would have sounded even better if it were on Bleach. Just a speculation, though.As for the imitation thing, true, and I'm probably relating too much of it to what I've read. It really seems like the label was pushing for a highly specific sound (grunge), and Kurt was really only to diverge from that sound on "About a Girl" (which, somewhat ironically, is one of the weaker tracks in my opinion).
Gowienczyk;3961304 said:This is completely incorrect, while some people mask their social ineptitude through the internet; their posts and typing is an extension of them and sometimes more honestly them (I'm a pretty reserved dude in reality for example, but I can be honest to myself and others online due to me not having that social ineptitude on the computer). You learn about peoples opinions, perspectives, viewpoints, quirks, dislikes, etc. all through posts and instant messenger. This is who somebody is, not to the extent of their quirks offsite the PC, but do not assume I don't know anyone because I talk to them on a digital box.
Gowienczyk;3961327 said:Breed and TP do sound like they are Bleach-era songwriting, yeah.Also, I feel Bleach is far more noise rock akin to The Jesus Lizard than grunge.
TheRollingBones;3961330 said:Fair enough, you can know some things about people through online messengers and posts, and may be able to correctly assume that you know them fairly well, but nothing digital replaces real speech to someone. For example, if I saw 10 regulars here, and talked to them for a few minutes, I likely wouldn't be able to pick many out. Regardless, this thread couldn't be more off-topic, so let's get back to whatever.