Response to Questions about Viacom Selling Harmonix

HMXJohnDHMXJohnD Harmonix Developer & One Man Dance Party
edited January 2011 in Rock Band
Hi Guys:

We’ve seen a lot of questions pop up in response to Viacom's statements this morning regarding their intention to sell Harmonix. We’ve posted this thread to respond to those questions. Please keep your forum conversations regarding this matter in this thread. We’ll check in throughout the day as we’re able.

This morning’s announcement does not affect the ongoing work at the studio as we continue to support our existing franchises, Rock Band and Dance Central. As stated earlier, Viacom is in discussions with several potential buyers and will continue to fully support the business until a sale is completed.

If you have additional questions or concerns, please post them in this thread. If you’re a member of the media with inquiry, you can reach out to us at [email]press@harmonixmusic.com[/email]. (Please don’t email this address if you’re not from a press outlet).

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  • babywolfmanbabywolfman Unsigned
    edited November 2010
    I think I'm awesome

    But on the real, as they say, can we just get a yes or no to "does HMX own Rock Band?"
  • edited November 2010
    My offer stands, $5000 plus a stake in my bake sale proceeds for the next 5 years.
  • RenrockRenrock Too bland to be banned
    edited November 2010
    Will the future buyer of Harmonix also get all the intellectual properties it has created over the years such as John Drake?
  • ShreddedShredded Rising Star
    edited November 2010
    thatmarkguy;4171195 said:
    The implication there is that support for the business ends when the sale is completed. Think that's a sign that Viacom is keeping the IP.
    Thikn you're misunderstanding that quote.

    Someone else will support the product after the sale.
  • PankrazzoPankrazzo Road Warrior
    edited November 2010
  • RenrockRenrock Too bland to be banned
    edited November 2010
    Apples;4171203 said:
    My offer stands, $5000 plus a stake in my bake sale proceeds for the next 5 years.

    Maybe we could get a community pool going. :p
  • ShreddedShredded Rising Star
    edited November 2010
    Bringing this over from the previous thread because it still makes me tee hee.
    Since we're just making it up as we go, here's a funny one for you:

    Suppose Activision buys it and then we get Soundgarden and RHCP back.

    That would be amusing.
  • babywolfmanbabywolfman Unsigned
    edited November 2010
    thatmarkguy;4171195 said:
    The implication there is that support for the business ends when the sale is completed. Think that's a sign that Viacom is keeping the IP.

    Maybe I'm just a "glass half empty" guy, but that's the way I read that, too. Here's hoping we're wrong.
  • jtrousdjtrousd Road Warrior
    edited November 2010
    I may just buy every piece of DLC from here on out.
  • etlikesreesesetlikesreeses Unsigned
    edited November 2010
    thatmarkguy;4171195 said:
    The implication there is that support for the business ends when the sale is completed. Think that's a sign that Viacom is keeping the IP.

    Not really. All it means is that even though Viacom is looking to sell Harmonix, the studio and Rock Band will still have the company resources at their disposal until they no longer belong to Viacom. In other words, they're not kicking the studio or the IP to the curb before they're sold.

    I actually get the opposite impression; the Viacom doesn't want the studio or the IP, and is just fulfilling their obligations as owners until they can sell both. I guess we'll see how it plays out.
  • Electric_ZenElectric_Zen Road Warrior
    edited November 2010
    Quastor;4171192 said:
    3) It's rumored that next week is a Bee-Gee's pack including "Stayin' Alive." I do not think this is in any way a coincidence. HMX knew the 10-Q filing would be out around this time, and is clearly trying to send a message to us all without having any official statement made.

    Unfortunately, the pack also includes the single Tragedy. Clearly the audio team planned this release to coincide with the 10-Q filing, and is intended to tell us that this announcement augments nothing but despair and ruin.
  • HuckleCatHuckleCat Rising Star
    edited November 2010
    Is it Activison, and if so, will there be an "exodus" of "main" people leaving the company? I'd hate for this all to end with a hollow shell of a name brand being bastardized by NeverSoft.

    I hear the people who own Bethesda are currently into buying new devs.
  • thatmarkguythatmarkguy Road Warrior
    edited November 2010
    Shredded;4171206 said:
    Thikn you're misunderstanding that quote.

    Someone else will support the product after the sale.

    That's exactly my concern. That's exactly what I read into it. That someone else will support the product after the sale.

    If the product was staying with HMX, they would continue to support it even after the sale.

    If someone else will be supporting the product after the sale, the implication is that the product is not HMX property and will not be included in the sale. Viacom will probably outsource 'support' (a call center), but this would appear to be the end of support as we know it - DLC and software patches.
  • FlawlessFlawless First Poster
    edited November 2010
    Not sure Viacom wants to hold onto the IP considering they are leaving the video games business.
  • jtrousdjtrousd Road Warrior
    edited November 2010
    HuckleCat;4171225 said:
    Is it Activison, and if so, will there be an "exodus" of "main" people leaving the company? I'd hate for this all to end with a hollow shell of a name brand being bastardized by NeverSoft.

    I hear the people who own Bethesda are currently into buying new devs.

    Man... imagine if one of the kings of RPGs bought Rock Band. I bet they could do some interesting stuff :P
  • QuastorQuastor Rising Star
    edited November 2010
    Electric_Zen;4171224 said:
    Unfortunately, the pack also includes the single Tragedy. Clearly the audio team planned this release to coincide with the 10-Q filing, and is intended to tell us that this announcement augments nothing but despair and ruin.

    The pack also included You Should Be Dancing, which is an obvious signal that HMX is shifting from RB to focus solely on Dance Central.
  • AndyyAndyy Rising Star
    edited November 2010
    No matter what happens, if this spells the end of RB or another company buys HMX and RB over, then I'm praying you release "Don't Start A Band" - Reel Big Fish as DLC. Would be perfect.
  • thatmarkguythatmarkguy Road Warrior
    edited November 2010
    Flawless;4171236 said:
    Not sure Viacom wants to hold onto the IP considering they are leaving the video games business.

    But it doesn't preclude them from keeping it to sell it separately. Imagine them selling HMX to EA, but the Rock Band brand to Activision (shudder).
  • Ralphy2009Ralphy2009 Opening Act
    edited November 2010
    thatmarkguy;4171195 said:
    The implication there is that support for the business ends when the sale is completed. Think that's a sign that Viacom is keeping the IP.

    I think you're reading too much into nothing. Viacom is going to continue to support the business until they sell that business. That's all the statement was saying. In no scenario would it make sense for Viacom to continue supporting a business after they have sold it to another entity.
  • SyphusSyphus Opening Act
    edited November 2010
    thatmarkguy;4171234 said:
    That's exactly my concern. That's exactly what I read into it. That someone else will support the product after the sale.

    If the product was staying with HMX, they would continue to support it even after the sale.

    If someone else will be supporting the product after the sale, the implication is that the product is not HMX property and will not be included in the sale. Viacom will probably outsource 'support' (a call center), but this would appear to be the end of support as we know it - DLC and software patches.

    That is one big huge logical jump there from nothing.
  • DeadManDrummingDeadManDrumming Rising Star
    edited November 2010
    Well that was an....Interesting read.

    Too bad he's tied down and can't give out more info.
  • ShreddedShredded Rising Star
    edited November 2010
    thatmarkguy;4171234 said:
    That's exactly my concern. That's exactly what I read into it. That someone else will support the product after the sale.

    If the product was staying with HMX, they would continue to support it even after the sale.

    If someone else will be supporting the product after the sale, the implication is that the product is not HMX property and will not be included in the sale. Viacom will probably outsource 'support' (a call center), but this would appear to be the end of support as we know it - DLC and software patches.
    Flawless;4171236 said:
    Not sure Viacom wants to hold onto the IP considering they are leaving the video games business.

    Not sure Viacom wants to keep HMX since they are leaving the video games business.

    They may be sold together.
  • UmpaUmpa Opening Act
    edited November 2010
    Please don't let Activision buy this. We all see what happened to the GH Series.
    Long Live Harmonix!
  • The0ldManThe0ldMan Unsigned
    edited November 2010
    Will you guys continue to be the most awesomest developers in the rhythm gaming industry?

    That's all that matters. As long as you're making awesome games, I'll buy 'em.
  • Ledgo2Ledgo2 Rising Star
    edited November 2010
    HuckleCat;4171225 said:
    Is it Activison, and if so, will there be an "exodus" of "main" people leaving the company? I'd hate for this all to end with a hollow shell of a name brand being bastardized by NeverSoft.

    I hear the people who own Bethesda are currently into buying new devs.

    You know, Bethesda would be really interesting if they were a potential buyer. They didn't do the Fallout series much harm (Hell, probably made it bigger and let the old developers back on their own game under them).

    As for licensing future songs, I don't think we'll have huge issues. Hell, we'll probably gain a few more interested artist if MTV was taken off.

    So far, I see Activision being the worst ending. EA probably one of the better. I seen someone mentioned Apple and that made me laugh. I am worried though. I've been following HMX since Guitar Hero 1. I would not be financially willing to follow them if they went to a new game series. I have alot invested in Rock Band right now, I wouldn't know what to do if I followed them into a new series having to buy songs twice (Or even three times if it's on GH). That, honestly, is my worst fear.
  • ShreddedShredded Rising Star
    edited November 2010
    Umpa;4171262 said:
    Please don't let Activision buy this. We all see what happened to the GH Series.
    Long Live Harmonix!

    I'm not convinced a deal with Activision is as bad as everyone believes.

    Product consolidation (assuming Rock Band/DLC survives), end of exclusivity, less glut of products (better release cycles) ...

    It might work out ... just maybe ... maybe? :-)
  • AndyyAndyy Rising Star
    edited November 2010
    Shredded;4171271 said:
    I'm not convinced a deal with Activision is as bad as everyone believes.

    Product consolidation (assuming Rock Band/DLC survives), end of exclusivity, less glut of products (better release cycles) ...

    It might work out ... just maybe ... maybe? :-)

    I gotta admit I'm with you on this one, if they did something like they did with Bungie it would be ideal. Great distribution for a great developer. But is HMX as big in the masses as Bungie? No, sadly it's not as recognisable.
  • AtreyuKunAtreyuKun Unsigned
    edited November 2010
    Shredded;4171271 said:
    I'm not convinced a deal with Activision is as bad as everyone believes.

    Product consolidation (assuming Rock Band/DLC survives), end of exclusivity, less glut of products (better release cycles) ...

    It might work out ... just maybe ... maybe? :-)

    But I hate hate the GH engine. Hate the way it plays and looks. They wouldn't keep the games separate; it would all be GH more than likely. Right?
  • Ledgo2Ledgo2 Rising Star
    edited November 2010
    Shredded;4171271 said:
    I'm not convinced a deal with Activision is as bad as everyone believes.

    Product consolidation (assuming Rock Band/DLC survives), end of exclusivity, less glut of products (better release cycles) ...

    It might work out ... just maybe ... maybe? :-)

    The issue with Activision is probably the fact we would end up having either Guitar Hero or Rock Band. Whichever series they don't want will be left behind and the other will continue. That's not good for some folks who've spent alot of money into one of the games. Plus, competition breeds innovation. Without that, the favored series would go stale. That's also very bad.
  • JetWolfJetWolf Rising Star
    edited November 2010
    This is obviously worrying news, as is any news that rocks the proverbial boat. I'll be waiting for any update Drake has for us. My first thought - maybe EA? HMX already has a relationship with them, and I'm pretty pleased (at least from my outside view) with how EA handles other franchises, such as everything Bioware does.

    So yes, anxious but very hopeful. This could turn out to be a great thing.
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