The truth about Hayley Williams and "Paramore"

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kingtonyxkingtonyx Unofficial
edited January 2011 in History of Rock
http://joshnfarro.blogspot.com/

Wow.
Josh and Zac's Exit Statement

Hey guys,


Let me start by apologizing to you for the way everything went down on Saturday. I had a statement typed ready to post to you guys but Hayley released one without my permission. We were not going to issue a statement until we worked out our exit agreement with Hayley. I wish it didn’t have to happen that way, Zac and I wanted to be the ones you heard it from. I want to be honest with you guys about how this band formulated from day one. I did not think Hayley’s version told the whole story, at least from our perspective and hopefully this will explain a bit about why we are leaving.

Zac and I had a garage band in high school with the intentions of just making music for the love of it. We met Taylor and our friend Jason Clark at our school and found out that we shared the same musical tastes. So, we asked them to join our band. It was some of the greatest times of our lives playing music in Taylor’s basement with them. We obviously needed a lead singer and one day Zac met Hayley. We asked her to come try out and eventually to join the band.

Months down the road things changed and this band became all about Hayley. She had a manager at the time that controlled her every move along with her parents. They didn’t like the idea of Hayley being in a rock band so they forced her to leave wanting her to pursue a solo career.

Hayley went off to write and record her solo demos while the four of us continued on without her. A couple of months later Hayley came and asked us if she could use the song “Conspiracy” that we had all previously written together. We agreed that that would be fine. I got a call a while after that from Hayley telling me that her manager said that Zac and I were invited to be back in the band (the band we started), but not Taylor and Jason because they weren’t good enough in his eyes. Hayley brought in Jeremy and our first rhythm guitarist Jason Bynum as the other two members.

We travelled to LA a few weeks later for a showcase and it was a nightmare. Hayley’s manager would tell the band to be in the lobby of the hotel at a certain time, but he and Hayley wouldn’t show for hours. We found out that they had been meeting with record label executives all morning without us, which is totally weird given that this wasn’t simply a solo artist, but we were a band. The band was in the dark the whole time. After many meetings between Hayley, her manager and the labels they decided to sign her to Atlantic records. We didn’t understand why Hayley was the only one signing the contract since we were told this was a “band”, but we were too young to grasp all of this. So far, Zac and I haven’t signed with another label, although I guess our part of Paramore sure could. Next thing we knew we were having a signing party for Hayley.

Our next move was to rerecord her solo demos with our own music rather than studio musicians to make it sound more genuine. Meanwhile, we tossed around band names. I wrote out a list of names, including “Paramore”, a name my old band with Taylor and Jason Clark had thought about using. Obviously, we settled on that name. The label received the rerecorded demos and once again tried to fire the entire band, saying we were terrible. Thankfully Hayley and I had been writing some new songs together (Hallelujah, Here We Go Again) that the label was pleased with so that acted as leverage for the band to stay. The label and management then decided to build our band up the grass-roots route. They put Hayley on Fueled by Ramen not making it known she was signed to Atlantic as well. All the while we still questioned whether or not we were an actual band, but Hayley continued to insist we were, despite our being ignored and pushed around by the label.

They then sent us all to Orlando to rehearse and write eight hours a day for our first record. Half -way though this process, Jeremy decided to quit. We were all really upset about it. So we finished the record, replaced Jeremy, and hit the road with Hayley’s father as our tour manager/driver of a twelve-passenger van. Her dad would constantly threaten to “pull the plug” on the whole band if we complained about anything, suggesting that we were hired guns and Hayley was the real artist, when in reality we were also part of the band. We’ve always been treated as less important than Hayley. It’s been obvious how her family views things.

Jeremy ended up rejoining and we toured non-stop for two and half years building our fan base, pretending to be a band that started naturally. In reality, what started as natural somehow morphed into a manufactured product of a major label, riding on the coattails of “Hayley’s dream.”

Before recording our next record, we kicked out Jeremy for his lack of work ethic and participation in things that Zac, Hayley and I didn’t agree with. At this point it was just the three of us to record Riot. Once the record was done, we needed a bassist and another guitarist. Eventually Zac and I convinced Hayley to let Taylor rejoin and she convinced us to let Jeremy back in, promising he had changed his ways.
Once again we hit the road and toured on our biggest record as a band. As you all know Hayley and I dated and broke up during this album cycle. Things then started going downhill for our band. Hayley and Jeremy’s views started changing from what we all once believed in. The band almost split after cancelling a tour in Europe, but we managed to keep it together somehow. This is when Zac and I started to consider quitting the band.

Once we finished touring on Riot, we came home for a break and started writing for Brand New Eyes. Hayley presented lyrics to us that were really negative and we didn’t agree with. For example, “the truth never set me free”, which contradicts what the Bible says in John 8:32 (“and you shall know the truth, and the truth shall sat you free”). We fought her about how her lyrics misrepresented our band and what we stood for, but in the end she got her way. Instead of fighting her any longer, we decided to just roll over and let it go.

Hayley claimed that this record reunited us as band and made us grow closer together, when in reality we were all growing further apart. Suddenly the band had spilt into two sides. Touring became more difficult since we couldn’t agree on anything. The friendships our band once had were no longer existent. Amos 3:3 says, “Can two people walk together without agreeing on the direction”. In addition to the band turmoil, touring had really taken its toll on us both. We left home at such a young age and missed taking part in normal teenage years. When you own part of a band and are constantly playing, you make sacrifices. Touring has taken its toll on our family members as well. I specifically remember many moments where our parents would break down in tears when we had to leave. It broke my heart. Seeing our siblings grow up so much during our absences was never easy either.

After a lot a prayer and counsel Zac and I came to the decision that it was time to leave the band. We truly feel that God is leading us elsewhere and is going to do great things with us. The intention of this statement was not to belittle or disgrace the rest of the band, it was simply to clarify our decision for leaving and our desire to finally tell you guys the truth. We are still hoping to work out a friendly way to leave our part of Paramore intact with the remaining band members, including Hayley.

We want to thank you guys for all of your love and support over the past 7 years. It’s been an honor creating and playing music for you. If music is what God calls us to in the future, we hope that you all will be a part of it.

All of the glory be to God,

Josh and Zac

Comments

  • Oscar-RioOscar-Rio 0/10
    edited December 2010
    to say i'm shocked would be a lie. at that level it is a business. period.

    edit: what's with all the bible references???
  • Lameboy19Lameboy19 Headliner
    edited December 2010
    finally she's going to realize her potential as a slutwave artist, it's high time really


    the band has never been good, not even their first album. She was the only thing that gave them "novelty"

    good riddance
  • seriousbussonseriousbusson Road Warrior
    edited December 2010
    I never respected Paramore or Hayley Williams to begin with. Reading this blog post makes me feel good for never giving the band any thought of my time.
  • kingtonyxkingtonyx Unofficial
    edited December 2010
    Oscar-Rio wrote: »
    to say i'm shocked would be a lie. at that level it is a business. period.

    edit: what's with all the bible references???

    Paramore is one of those "kinda" Christian bands. Where the members are all Christians and it's in the lyrics, but they're not really put in with other Christian bands.
  • Oscar-RioOscar-Rio 0/10
    edited December 2010
    i dunno, reading that leads me to believe they're pretty serious about their religion in the way it corresponds with their lyrical themes. to be fair, reading that blog post it the most information i've ever known about paramore other than that their singer's name was Hayley and she dyes her hair orange/red/whatever.
  • GowienczykGowienczyk Pooper of Parties
    edited December 2010
    I never respected Paramore or Hayley Williams to begin with. Reading this blog post makes me feel good for never giving the band any thought of my time.

    The only members I respected was always the rhythm section. The end. Just another fueled by generic outfit.
  • chumsicleschumsicles Road Warrior
    edited December 2010
    Wow......no wonder they were such a terrible band. Nearly completely dominated by the label and the singer's image.

    and all the hot topic kiddies bought into it nearly every step of the way
  • Lameboy19Lameboy19 Headliner
    edited December 2010
    Gowienczyk wrote: »
    Just another fueled by generic outfit.

    just so you know, I'm gonna use that
  • Onslaught_feiOnslaught_fei Headliner
    edited December 2010
    We all smelled corporate shill the moment this band got endlessly promoted. Duh, nothing in here is surprising.
  • MrFruitLordMrFruitLord Headliner
    edited December 2010
    Paramore had christian members? Bleh.

    I wish when people thought of Christianity, they thought of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYUC4MdWycU
  • chumsicleschumsicles Road Warrior
    edited December 2010
    That is a far more appropriate soundtrack to god's doings in the bible than paramore or the watery crap church bands play
  • clashcityrocker10clashcityrocker10 Headliner
    edited December 2010
    We all smelled corporate shill the moment this band got endlessly promoted. Duh, nothing in here is surprising.

    Exactly. I probably could've told the exact same story this guy did before I even read this thing.
  • killer_roachkiller_roach Washed Up
    edited December 2010
    chumsicles wrote: »
    That is a far more appropriate soundtrack to god's doings in the bible than paramore or the watery crap church bands play

    I think it was Mencken that said "The Old Testament is literally dripping with blood"...
  • PoRtO rYcAnPoRtO rYcAn Opening Act
    edited December 2010
    I think I'm about to change my avatar
  • PoRtO rYcAnPoRtO rYcAn Opening Act
    edited December 2010
    Paramore had christian members? Bleh.

    I wish when people thought of Christianity, they thought of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYUC4MdWycU

    I love sympathy by the way :D
  • PoRtO rYcAnPoRtO rYcAn Opening Act
    edited December 2010
    Paramore had christian members? Bleh.

    I wish when people thought of Christianity, they thought of this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aYUC4MdWycU

    I love sympathy by the way :D
  • TheRollingBonesTheRollingBones Headliner
    edited December 2010
    tl;dr

    what is this
  • clashcityrocker10clashcityrocker10 Headliner
    edited December 2010
    tl;dr

    what is this

    The members of Paramore, at least some, are more devoted to their faith than they let on (I have no problem with this, except great, another band that makes terrible music is Christian). And Hayley Williams is a corporate creation that dragged her bandmates along with her. Shocker.
  • PoRtO rYcAnPoRtO rYcAn Opening Act
    edited December 2010
    It's funny how she's trying to make it out to be gossip on her twitter and tons of fans are totally believing her over this
  • TheRollingBonesTheRollingBones Headliner
    edited December 2010
    Meh, I was never big on Paramore to start with, but what's the big deal? So they're Christian, so what? Let them believe what they want to believe! They aren't pushing it on anyone, I gather. What difference is it if they're Christian, or atheist, or Jewish, or Muslim, or whatever?
  • FlyGuyLXIFlyGuyLXI Headl!ner
    edited December 2010
    Ah well...

    I never minded their music, but it's something I'm not going to cry about.

    Also, lol at all of those "I'm too cool for the corporation" comments.
  • DerLindwurmDerLindwurm Road Warrior
    edited December 2010
    Meh, I was never big on Paramore to start with, but what's the big deal? So they're Christian, so what? Let them believe what they want to believe! They aren't pushing it on anyone, I gather. What difference is it if they're Christian, or atheist, or Jewish, or Muslim, or whatever?
    I kind of doubt Hayley was ever really on board with the whole "Christian band" thing (see also: Amy Lee.) Her management probably not really either. So it'll be interesting to see where she and the rest of her "band" go with their image and tone now that it's not an issue anymore.
  • TheRollingBonesTheRollingBones Headliner
    edited December 2010
    Yeh, I guess so. It's news to Paramore fans, but nothing more. But I don't know why it seems that when every band comes out saying that they're Christian and all, they have to become a stereotypical "Christan rock band". I mean, I have Christian beliefs, but if I form a band, I'm not going to write about the bible and all that.
  • neckermanncjneckermanncj Washed Up
    edited December 2010
    lol god
    Lameboy19 wrote: »
    finally she's going to realize her potential as a slutwave artist, it's high time really
    +1
  • Rocket2RussiaRocket2Russia Road Warrior
    edited December 2010
    Is there seriously a thread on HoR that is discussing the impacts of the departure of two members of Paramore and mentioning Christian rock only half-jokingly? Kill me now.
  • Onslaught_feiOnslaught_fei Headliner
    edited December 2010
    I'm am waaaaay too cool for the corporation. The coolest, in fact.
  • Soror_YZBLSoror_YZBL Road Warrior
    edited December 2010
    kingtonyx wrote: »
    Paramore is one of those "kinda" Christian bands. Where the members are all Christians and it's in the lyrics, but they're not really put in with other Christian bands.

    It's the best way to exploit that market, while still being able to sell records to the general public. It's a smart business move.
  • nobunagaspectrenobunagaspectre Unsigned
    edited December 2010
    Why did this turn into a bashing of religion? I certainly would not think of Paramore as a good representative of the Christian faith, especially after all of this nonsense.
  • CubecubedCubecubed Washed Up
    edited December 2010
    I'm not entirely sure that this isn't just the bitter ramblings of someone who wanted to be famous,and once upstaged by someone else,decided to quit and smear them in the press.Could be true,who knows? Don't really care all that much,lol.
  • citizenCEROcitizenCERO Road Warrior
    edited December 2010
    I FOR ONE AM GLAD
    PARAMORE IS ABSOLUTE ****

    /butthurt and vengeful
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