Doom878;4408621 said:You don't have the problem with Rock Band because of the sensors on the Squier/Mustang. If you plugged in the Rocksmith cable to a guitar and tried to play RB3 (assuming it worked) then yes latency would still be an issue. HMX knew this thus opting for game specific guitars.
tnevaker;4408616 said:...the right things about lag...
RRhoads;4408719 said:What if the signal is analog, do you think there would be delay then? Like I said, I don't get any noticeable lag between my PC and sound system when I connect my guitar there. I would be getting this game for PC anyway.
tnevaker;4408616 said:the best thing about RB3 for me was that option to turn off drum fills.
DMBillies;4408750 said:I am guessing your computer "sound system" does not have nearly the signal processing of most modern TV's and surround sound systems, which do all kinds of "magic" to the signal before it comes out of your speakers. The issue the guy in the review is talking about results from the amount of time it takes for an audio signal to go from the console/computer, through your sound system, and out the speakers, not the amount of time it takes for the instrument to send a signal to the console/computer.
DMBillies;4408750 said:If audio takes 30 ms from the time it leaves the console to come out the speakers, any guitar you hook up to that console is going to play a sound AT LEAST 30 ms after you strum the notes (adding on any time it takes to get from the guitar to the console, which will typically be very small, and any processing that the console does). This will be inescapable for many people unless they are playing on a system with near 0 lag (which may be your computer, but anyone with a surround sound system is probably in trouble).
DMBillies;4408750 said:Read any thread on calibration and you'll notice two things: 1) In games where timing an action appropriately with an audio and video signal is critically important, people notice rather small misalignments, and 2) TV's and sound systems vary widely in how much audio and video lag they introduce.
dog037;4409021 said:New Songs! Best Coast When I'm With You Blur Song 2 The Black Keys Next Girl The Boxer Rebellion Step Out Of The Car Cream Sunshine Of Your Love The Cribs We Share The Same Skies The Cure Boys Don't Cry Jenny O Well OK Honey Lynyrd Skynyrd Sweet Home Alabama Nirvana Breed Pixies Where Is My Mind? Radiohead High and Dry Red Fang Number Thirteen The Rolling Stones The Spider and the Fly Silversun Pickups Panic Switch Soundgarden - Outshined Spoon Me and The Bean Stone Temple Pilots Vasoline Taddy Porter Mean ***** Titus Andronicus A More Perfect Union White Denim Burnished The White Stripes Icky Thump Yellow Moon Band - Chimney Soundgarden exclusive? Other than Where is My Mind? not much to excite me.
dog037;4409021 said:New Songs!• Best Coast – When I'm With You • Blur – Song 2 • The Black Keys – Next Girl • The Boxer Rebellion – Step Out Of The Car • Cream – Sunshine Of Your Love • The Cribs – We Share The Same Skies • The Cure – Boys Don't Cry • Jenny O – Well OK Honey • Lynyrd Skynyrd – Sweet Home Alabama • Nirvana – Breed • Pixies – Where Is My Mind? • Radiohead – High and Dry • Red Fang – Number Thirteen • The Rolling Stones – The Spider and the Fly • Silversun Pickups – Panic Switch • Soundgarden - Outshined • Spoon – Me and The Bean • Stone Temple Pilots – Vasoline • Taddy Porter – Mean ***** • Titus Andronicus – A More Perfect Union • White Denim – Burnished • The White Stripes – Icky Thump • Yellow Moon Band - Chimney Soundgarden exclusive? Other than Where is My Mind? not much to excite me.Edit: Source
dog037;4409021 said:New Songs!Soundgarden exclusive? Other than Where is My Mind? not much to excite me.Edit: Source
RRhoads;4408881 said:Why are you only thinking about the latency between the console and the speakers? Why do you also think surround has anything to do with it? Processing? What about amps/pedals with different DIGITAL effects? How do you explain that there is no input lag there?
dog037;4409021 said:New Songs! Best Coast When I'm With You Blur Song 2 The Black Keys Next Girl The Boxer Rebellion Step Out Of The Car Cream Sunshine Of Your Love The Cribs We Share The Same Skies The Cure Boys Don't Cry Jenny O Well OK Honey Lynyrd Skynyrd Sweet Home Alabama Nirvana Breed Pixies Where Is My Mind? Radiohead High and Dry Red Fang Number Thirteen The Rolling Stones The Spider and the Fly Silversun Pickups Panic Switch Soundgarden - Outshined Spoon Me and The Bean Stone Temple Pilots Vasoline Taddy Porter Mean ***** Titus Andronicus A More Perfect Union White Denim Burnished The White Stripes Icky Thump Yellow Moon Band - Chimney Soundgarden exclusive? Other than Where is My Mind? not much to excite me.Edit: Source
DMBillies;4409492 said:In any case, lag at any point is a problem, I was just saying that lag in the system that occurs after the console/PC, is something that Rocksmith has no control over and there is no way to calibrate for it.
Ruz-El;4410153 said:I have a guitar, but I'm not interested in this game at all. Unless it hits the $20 price or something. That said, they have a Rolling Stones song that I don't think has appeared anywhere else. We need some of these Stones songs in Rock Band! It ain't right I tell ya!I'm going to email Keith Richards and get on this...
abynormal;4410377 said:And once again my hopes of seeing Clapton on my beloved music game are diminished.
nicko68;4415439 said:I don't get it. I think he was one of the ones who didn't like the GH/RB games with the fake plastic guitars, but I figured with RB3 being able to use the pro controllers, that we'd get his stuff in game.
The early Alpha version of the game I demoed showed off a few of the game's bold ideas about moving you up the ladder towards real-life guitar proficiency. For starters, there's a plethora of minigames designed to include your manual dexterity on the fretboard. Also, instead of choosing a song's difficulty level before you play it, each track is split into different phrases which "level up" as you play them successfully. As each phrase increases in level, more notes, chords and special techniques are added, until you're actually playing something that sounds similar to the song in question.And, thanks to Rocksmith's detection of your guitar's sound and its bevy of built-in guitar effects, the songs you play actually sound like the songs you play. Those effects can also be used in a freestyle "Amp" mode, which lets you customize your guitar's tone with remarkable detail using any of a bajillion combinations of pedals, amps and filters. My very favorite time I spent with Rocksmith were the hours I whittled away experimenting with unfamiliar tones, your catalog of which expands as you progress through the game.It might even be a viable, cost-effective replacement for an expensive set of stompable sound modulators, if it weren't for the largest problem I experienced with Rocksmith: There's some pretty noticeable lag on some displays. It's a problem inherent in some televisions -- particularly cheaper ones -- alleviated somewhat by switching to composite cables and turning your television's "Game Mode," provided it has one. Still, unless you're playing on a relatively latency-free TV or using an external speaker, you're going to get a hundred or so milliseconds of lag -- just enough to add a delay between your plucking a string and the game registering said pluck.It's not enough to make the actual game unplayable, but it certainly throws off your performance in the freestyle Amp mode. It also cheapens another neat feature -- after you play a song, it plays it back to you, amplifying your own contributions. When those contributions are a beat behind the actual song, it just makes you sound like the most distracted guitarist in the history of the instrument.