Rocksmith & Rocksmith 2014 discussion thread

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  • tnevakertnevaker Road Warrior
    edited June 2011
    Doom878;4434984 said:
    Did he mention his a/v setup?

    This confused me: "Yeah, I've got the pro guitar for RB3. It's definitely better, in terms of raw gameplay. But that's solely because of the notation system, which is far more intuitive and natural than Rock Band's. Of course, that's because it takes up your whole screen." Is he saying RB3 has better raw gameplay and RS better notation?

    i believe what he's trying to say is that Rocksmith is better in terms of raw gameplay because of its notation system. yeah it was confusing though, sounded like he was saying RB3 was better. i had to read it a couple times to figure out what he meant.

    also, the leveling up sounds really annoying, especially if you have to do it for each song (and presumably the same for any new DLC you buy). i thought i read somewhere someone said that there would be an option to play the full song though. could be mistaken about that though, mightve just been wishful thinking.
  • kitlerckitlerc Road Warrior
    edited June 2011
    So I officially preordered Rocksmith. Picked up my RB3 Squier today. We'll see how long I actually stick with it. Managed to save $40 buying them together, so that was nice, and I had a 10% off coupon at Best Buy that I used for the Midi Pro adapter.
  • alexlifesonalexlifeson Opening Act
    edited July 2011
    As soon as I saw these 2 vids from their site for the "Beginner" and "Gamer", I knew we were in trouble and it was going to be very simple stuff for this game

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rYzoavA8B_8

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fAP-IvVXoHM
    tnevaker;4433318 said:
    i think the track listing reflects the fact that this game is geared more toward teaching new guitarists than satisfying existing guitarists. most of the songs listed are fairly basic, with simple melody lines or basic chords being repeated. there's not much challenge in that song listing for existing guitarists. certainly nothing along the lines of crazy train or a7x. and considering the wonky notation system they're using, i don't know if those songs would even translate into even a vaguely readable form on this game.

    maybe they are saving the more difficult songs for dlc, but you'd think there'd be at least a few challenging songs on disk. it's ironic that this is the game that can be used with ANY guitar, thus should be more appealing to experienced guitarists who would want to use their own guitars instead of buying a new one, and yet the song list has almost nothing an experienced guitarist would be very interested in playing.
  • toymachineSHtoymachineSH Headliner
    edited July 2011
    Sweet Home Alabama is in the game
    that isn't really "easy"
  • GNFfhqwhgadsGNFfhqwhgads 99% Washed Up
    edited July 2011
    I wouldn't recommend this to someone who has no interest of playing guitar,
    Does this REALLY have to be said?


    Also, called the forced difficulty thing. : / Awesome.
  • lvmathemagicianlvmathemagician Road Warrior
    edited July 2011
    I think as a player, I would be better served without the variable difficulty. Of course, it's what I'm used to so I'm biased.
  • alexlifesonalexlifeson Opening Act
    edited July 2011
    Thats good to hear. Hope it gets even better before release
  • pokemonmaster30pokemonmaster30 Unsigned
    edited July 2011
    Oh no! Rock Band's going to have competition! It does really look good, though.
  • GNFfhqwhgadsGNFfhqwhgads 99% Washed Up
    edited July 2011
    pokemonmaster30;4438485 said:
    Oh no! Rock Band's going to have competition!
    Why? Because this compares to 10% of Rock Band's playability?
  • toymachineSHtoymachineSH Headliner
    edited July 2011
    Yeah it's pretty indirect competition
  • Bront20Bront20 The Writing's on the Wall
    edited July 2011
    toymachineSH;4438620 said:
    Yeah it's pretty indirect competition

    And any success in the Rhythm Gaming section is good for the genre. I'm sure reviews will mention RB3's Pro mode, HMX will be able to mine it for any new ideas, and if it succeeds, it may draw folks to RB3 as well (as it's the only place for Drums and Keys), and it might keep labels interested in releasing music though the genre.
  • tnevakertnevaker Road Warrior
    edited July 2011
    i've seen the $25 voucher at best buy mentioned here, but i saw today now that guitar center is doing the same thing.

    http://gc.guitarcenter.com/rocksmith/

    however the game itself actually stacks up, one thing is for sure: they definitely beat RB when it comes to promotion.
  • tnevakertnevaker Road Warrior
    edited July 2011
    lvmathemagician;4437471 said:
    I think as a player, I would be better served without the variable difficulty. Of course, it's what I'm used to so I'm biased.

    it amazes me that there isn't some override to allow you to play the full charts. the variable difficulty that adjusts to your playing sounds like a good idea, but it has to have some configurability to work. i'm not even sure if it's a good way to learn guitar. the only way to get better at something is to consistently work at things you CAN'T already do. if you're really bad at, say, alt-picking, and every time the game "levels up" to where you have to alt-pick and you end up failing and dropping back down in difficulty, will you ever learn to alt-pick? you need to spend a considerable amount of time practicing the same technique over and over to pick up that technique, if the game keeps on dropping you down to a lower level, you'll never pick it up, or at least you won't pick it up nearly as quickly as you should. it's like lifting weights, if you only ever pick up a 25lb dumbbell, you'll never get strong enough to lift a 30lb dumbbell. you have to occasionally pick up heavier weights to get any stronger. i know this game has those little "mini-games" that are supposed to teach basic skills, but i'm skeptical about those. i know i wouldn't want to play some game where i'm shooting ducks using my guitar. i want to play songs, and i want to be able to play them the correct way, not a dumbed down version. i'd rather play the song correctly and get 70%, and keep on playing it until i get to 80 or 90%, then to learn how to play a simplified version of the song at 100%.
  • raynebcraynebc Road Warrior
    edited July 2011
    If enough of the fans complain about the auto difficulty system, there's a strong chance they'll patch it to make it optional. Or at least they will if they want to keep their customers all happy. It's probably too late for them to change it for launch.
  • alexlifesonalexlifeson Opening Act
    edited July 2011
    Suggest you can do this over at their FB site as they have Q&A sessions with fans/potential buyers and seem to be receptive to comments/suggestions:

    https://www.facebook.com/#!/rocksmithgame
    raynebc;4440020 said:
    If enough of the fans complain about the auto difficulty system, there's a strong chance they'll patch it to make it optional. Or at least they will if they want to keep their customers all happy. It's probably too late for them to change it for launch.
  • alexlifesonalexlifeson Opening Act
    edited July 2011
    Havent seen this vid yet before but adds some interesting concepts they are using (unlock pedal tones)

    http://www.wired.com/video/gaming/gamelife/888742270001/rocksmith-the-final-guitar-game/993238152001
  • kitlerckitlerc Road Warrior
    edited July 2011
    tnevaker;4439994 said:
    i've seen the $25 voucher at best buy mentioned here, but i saw today now that guitar center is doing the same thing.

    http://gc.guitarcenter.com/rocksmith/
    At Best Buy it was $40 off, and you can get your guitar now instead of waiting until after you get the game.
    (Upon investigation, it is $25 off of a specific guitar, or $40 off any guitar priced $200 or more)
  • tnevakertnevaker Road Warrior
    edited July 2011
    kitlerc;4440640 said:
    At Best Buy it was $40 off, and you can get your guitar now instead of waiting until after you get the game.
    (Upon investigation, it is $25 off of a specific guitar, or $40 off any guitar priced $200 or more)

    okay, i didn't remember exactly how much the BB voucher was, i just assumed it was the same. GC does have a better selection and nicer guitars though.
  • alex_rbalex_rb Opening Act
    edited July 2011
    I;m really looking forward to this game, but I have a wii... Any news on when that PC version is being released?
  • raynebcraynebc Road Warrior
    edited July 2011
    Even in that video, they're being as misleading as they can get away with by implying Guitar Hero is their main/only competitor and then downplaying Rock Band by saying you don't need a "MIDI connector or anything like that" to play Rocksmith.
  • kitlerckitlerc Road Warrior
    edited July 2011
    tnevaker;4440667 said:
    okay, i didn't remember exactly how much the BB voucher was, i just assumed it was the same. GC does have a better selection and nicer guitars though.
    It all depends on your situation I suppose. In mine, I wanted the RB3 Squier (which is only at Best Buy as far as I know) And I don't have a Guitar Center near me.
  • Funk-n-steinFunk-n-stein Rising Star
    edited July 2011
    I didn't realize there's gonna be a PC version until just now. Any speculation as to whether it would be less lag prone on PC due to better processing hardware? Since it's a single player game, having a huge screen isn't as necessary.
  • toymachineSHtoymachineSH Headliner
    edited July 2011
    Probably have as much lag as Guitar Rig
  • Bront20Bront20 The Writing's on the Wall
    edited July 2011
    Funk-n-stein;4442310 said:
    I didn't realize there's gonna be a PC version until just now. Any speculation as to whether it would be less lag prone on PC due to better processing hardware? Since it's a single player game, having a huge screen isn't as necessary.
    Lag is caused by audio and video processing, and is not a console hardware issues. Folks using monitors and direct plug in speakers aren't likely to have much lag. Folks using a TV setup will have the same issues console folks would have.
  • Doom878Doom878 Road Warrior
    edited July 2011
    But I think the PC is supposed to be for next year based on sales.
  • Funk-n-steinFunk-n-stein Rising Star
    edited July 2011
    Ah - good info. I'd be using it on a monitor and speakers plugged directly into my computer so all video and audio processing would be taking place on the PC, but if it's not coming out at the same time as the console version, I'll probably just get the console version. I have a rear-projection TV connected via component cables anyway so my lag issues aren't bad at all even using dolby surround via my receiver/amplifier. Just thought it would be nice to have it on my computer in my office where I keep and play my real guitar (not in basement man cave with PS3/TV)
  • Funk-n-steinFunk-n-stein Rising Star
    edited July 2011
    Doom878;4444307 said:
    But I think the PC is supposed to be for next year based on sales.

    Just looked at Best Buy pre-order page. Looks like the console version is slated for the end of september while the PC version is slated for early december. I may wait and buy the PC version if it's only an extra couple months later.
  • toymachineSHtoymachineSH Headliner
    edited July 2011
    Rocksmith Console (US) - October
    Rocksmith PC (US) - December

    Rocksmith (EU) - 2012 ?
  • Doom878Doom878 Road Warrior
    edited July 2011
    Ok it was EU for next year. Sorry.

    Hey Toy, you should've posted the ad from your twitter for pretty dude guitar players for the RS ads.
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