Rock Band Blitz – Rumors and Facts

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  • samjjonessamjjones Road Warrior
    edited April 2012
    FairwoodStudios;4695790 said:

    I suspect/hope that, after Blitz launches, we'll start to see a growth over the three-a-week DLC rate we've had lately. It just makes sense to increase the output after a new game release, and the audio team will have been done authoring these tracks for a little while now so the manpower should open up.

    This *could* be an important point. With a "new" title, it isn't unreasonable to expect the quantity of DLC to ramp up a bit.

    That said, if I had to bet on this, I'd bet on the 3 or 4 a week schedule to stay in place from this point on, with the occasional "big" pack every couple of months. I'd obviously love to be proven wrong.
  • elfreakoelfreako Road Warrior
    edited April 2012
    tnevaker;4695742 said:
    more interesting would be if they included a way to launch the arcade game from within RB3.

    especially if you've got a huge DLC library and don't want to have to wait for it to reload when switching between games.
    That idea is not half bad! I doubt it'd be worth the trouble on HMX's side though, but it would be kinda cool.
  • MurphyRockMurphyRock Rising Star
    edited April 2012
    I am super stoked about this game. I have about 400 DLC/exports on my PS3 hard drive that I'll be able to play in it right away - what a value!!! The one unanswered question I have is, will RB3 offer a disc export before this game's release, so that we can play songs from the RB3 disc too?
  • Cipher_PeonCipher_Peon I don't get it at all
    edited April 2012
    Thinking about it... Doesn't this make the DLC have even more value than what it is?
    Buying a 2 dollar song would give you guitar, bass, drums, pro drums, keys, and pro keys on RB3 and then a playable track on Rock Band Blitz! That makes buying DLC even sweeter :O
  • thatmarkguythatmarkguy Road Warrior
    edited April 2012
    Any licensing issues as a result? I'm waiting for the inevitable "The following tracks and artists, whose songs already exist on your hard drive, cannot be played in RBB because of a licensing dispute" list.

    "and is compatible with most of the current Rock Band library of over 3,500 songs"

    Makes me wonder what exactly is the distinction between most and all. Does 'most' just mean to exclude the RB1 and 2 non-exportables, the RB3 setlist, Hier Kommt Alex and Rock and Roll Star? Or are there new songs to add to the 'labels won't play ball' list?
  • grumblevolcanogrumblevolcano Headliner
    edited April 2012
    thatmarkguy;4695835 said:
    Any licensing issues as a result? I'm waiting for the inevitable "The following tracks and artists, whose songs already exist on your hard drive, cannot be played in RBB because of a licensing dispute" list.

    "and is compatible with most of the current Rock Band library of over 3,500 songs"

    Makes me wonder what exactly is the distinction between most and all. Does 'most' just mean to exclude the RB1 and 2 non-exportables, the RB3 setlist, Hier Kommt Alex and Rock and Roll Star? Or are there new songs to add to the 'labels won't play ball' list?

    I was thinking the same thing in the form of:
    1) Can you play the RB3 setlist or exports in Blitz?
    2) Will we see the return of Rock and Roll Star, Runnin' Wild and Hier Kommt Alex?
    3) Will there be any further DLC incompatible with Blitz?
  • BlasteroidsBlasteroids Road Warrior
    edited April 2012
    Sayburr;4695097 said:
    Songs
    The game will feature over 20 (rumor 25) new songs that fully transferable Rock Band 3 - G4tv X-Play – Apr 3

    What do you mean rumor? Matthew Nordhaus from HMX specifically says 25 songs in the XPlay interview. He also goes on to say that "the songs are instantly playable in RB3", so this means no export fee.. right?
    thatmarkguy;4695799 said:
    I can understand it being designed to read existing RB folders (to play RBB with old RB DLC and exports). It's a dangerous move to allow it to write to the RB folders (as it would need to to get RB3 to see the new songs). Much safer to have each game have a read-only relationship with any folder that isn't its own native data folder.

    Not really. It does not touch the RB3 game, only places the tracks (aka DLC) into the relevant folders. Just like when you purchase a song from the store. When you start RB3, that game looks into the folder and says "Hey, I found new DLC... please wait a few minutes whilst I examine it.".
    thatmarkguy;4695835 said:
    "and is compatible with most of the current Rock Band library of over 3,500 songs"

    Makes me wonder what exactly is the distinction between most and all. Does 'most' just mean to exclude the RB1 and 2 non-exportables, the RB3 setlist, Hier Kommt Alex and Rock and Roll Star? Or are there new songs to add to the 'labels won't play ball' list?

    RB3 does not export yet, so I doubt you will be playing that in Blitz ;) I think the statement means, any non RB3 disc song that can be played in RB3 will work in Blitz. I'm wondering if RBN Demo songs work.
  • FairwoodStudiosFairwoodStudios Road Warrior
    edited April 2012
    Blasteroids;4695850 said:
    RB3 does not export yet, so I doubt you will be playing that in Blitz ;) I think the statement means, any non RB3 disc song that can be played in RB3 will work in Blitz. I'm wondering if RBN Demo songs work.

    I don't remember where he said it, but I believe Nord commented that "Pro upgrades and XBox demos" (referring to RBN demos) will not be available or functional in Blitz.
  • firedoom666firedoom666 Headliner
    edited April 2012
    according to this Rock Band 3 on-disc songs wont import to Rock BAnd Blitz and Harmonix has no plans to export RB3 yet
  • BlasteroidsBlasteroids Road Warrior
    edited April 2012
    FairwoodStudios;4695853 said:
    I don't remember where he said it, but I believe Nord commented that "Pro upgrades and XBox demos" (referring to RBN demos) will not be available or functional in Blitz.
    Must have missed that part, but it's what I suspected.
  • Lowlander2Lowlander2 FaIling Star
    edited April 2012
    Cipher_Peon;4695827 said:
    Thinking about it... Doesn't this make the DLC have even more value than what it is?
    Buying a 2 dollar song would give you guitar, bass, drums, pro drums, keys, and pro keys on RB3 and then a playable track on Rock Band Blitz! That makes buying DLC even sweeter :O
    As I said, how well the cross-compatability works remains to be seen. I want to see how broken the Andromeda/Chaotrope/Evile/Dream Theater/etc charts are.
  • BlasteroidsBlasteroids Road Warrior
    edited April 2012
    Lowlander2;4695860 said:
    As I said, how well the cross-compatability works remains to be seen. I want to see how broken the Andromeda/Chaotrope/Evile/Dream Theater/etc charts are.

    Good point. I wonder how the keys only RBN tracks will work out :)
  • Odin ForceOdin Force Road Warrior
    edited April 2012
    So then my next hopeful point is that the game has fun achievements/trophies... and as many as possible.
  • CroqCroq Opening Act
    edited April 2012
    firedoom666;4695856 said:
    according to this Rock Band 3 on-disc songs wont import to Rock Band Blitz and Harmonix has no plans to export RB3 yet
    Yeah, I read that too. Disappointing, but understandable.

    Joystiq says this:
    However, you will not be able to export the disc-based Rock Band 3 tracks into Rock Band Blitz, since they don't reside on the hard drive. Asked whether Harmonix was working on an update to allow import of disc tracks as an option, a representative told us, "We don't have plans at this time."
    ***DELETE***Still unclear is whether RB1 or RB2 exports will work. RB2 was, I believe, loaded to the HD as DLC, so hopefully it'll work. RB1 tracks were loaded as game saves, so it depends on whether RBB supports that format. And we have previously had issues with re-licensing of tracks in the past (some of which was later fixed) as everyone is well aware.***DELETE***

    *EDIT* - as pointed out in this post, RB1/RB2 exported content will work fine.
  • MagnetMagnet Moderator
    edited April 2012
    Croq;4695871 said:
    Still unclear is whether RB1 or RB2 exports will work.
    The press release specifically calls out RB1/2 exports as compatible:
    HMXPope;4695800 said:
    Rock Band Blitz is also compatible with most of your existing Rock Band music library, including all content from the Rock Band Music Store, as well as tracks exported from Rock Band, Rock Band 2, and more.
  • powerofyates2powerofyates2 Opening Act
    edited April 2012
    Sayburr;4695097 said:

    The game will feature over 20 (rumor 25) new songs that fully transferable Rock Band 3 -

    How is this only a rumor? The G4 interview said 25.

    Also, it's funny to me that I haven't read one comment wondering about a Rock Band 3 export. No one even cares.


    ETA: oops people have just asked
    firedoom666;4695856 said:
    according to this Rock Band 3 on-disc songs wont import to Rock BAnd Blitz and Harmonix has no plans to export RB3 yet




    Also also, I wonder if this could land them in hot water with some of the music rights holders. They're calling it part of the Rock Band platform, but it is totally different gameplay. I could see some of music people getting upset that they're property is now being used in a game they didn't approve or get extra upfront money for.
  • EspioxEspiox Unsigned
    edited April 2012
    I wonder if they could get the digital version of RB3 working in Blitz at some point. If RB3 can read files from Blitz, perhaps there's a way they can go the opposite way.
  • Lowlander2Lowlander2 FaIling Star
    edited April 2012
    Hmm....is that a new forums background to come with the occasion I spy?
  • princeofcupsprinceofcups Road Warrior
    edited April 2012
    powerofyates2;4695893 said:

    Also also, I wonder if this could land them in hot water with some of the music rights holders. They're calling it part of the Rock Band platform, but it is totally different gameplay. I could see some of music people getting upset that they're property is now being used in a game they didn't approve or get extra upfront money for.

    We haven't seen the contracts, obviously, but it looks similar enough to RB, e.g. rhythm game with scrolling notes, that I don't see it being an issue. If anything, it's just a subset of RB with all the old GH screaming fluff and pinball bells added back in.
  • SayburrSayburr The Always Informative Rock Band Forum Guru
    edited April 2012
    Blasteroids;4695850 said:
    What do you mean rumor? Matthew Nordhaus from HMX specifically says 25 songs in the XPlay interview. He also goes on to say that "the songs are instantly playable in RB3", so this means no export fee.. right?
    Updated to include 25 songs... also, the press release says no export fee... so I have added that also. thanks.
    firedoom666;4695856 said:
    according to this Rock Band 3 on-disc songs wont import to Rock BAnd Blitz and Harmonix has no plans to export RB3 yet

    Added this to the OP, thanks.
  • kiggidykevkiggidykev Thinks about pandas
    edited April 2012
    Was "Once Bitten" confirmed to be part of Blitz, or perhaps it could be a piece of upcoming DLC? The Blitz page has the four other songs confirmed, but not that one.
  • grumblevolcanogrumblevolcano Headliner
    edited April 2012
    firedoom666;4695856 said:
    according to this Rock Band 3 on-disc songs wont import to Rock BAnd Blitz and Harmonix has no plans to export RB3 yet

    Cipher would be disappointed as he can't play Misery Business in RBB.
  • SayburrSayburr The Always Informative Rock Band Forum Guru
    edited April 2012
    Adding the following from OXM

    “Each of the lanes on Blitz’s track represents an instrument (drums, bass, guitar, vocals, keyboards), while within each lane, you have two sub-lanes that let you play different notes on that instrument. Several control schemes are available, but in the one we used for our hands-on demo, LT and RT move you between the five lanes, while the D-pad and the A button shift you between an instrument’s two sub-lanes.” – OXMonline

    The game has a single difficulty level – “game’s lone difficulty level” - OXMonline

    The gameplay reminded us of the shreddiest game ever, Guitar Hero III — at times, you get the same videogamey sense of spamming notes rather than playing them — except much more fluid and fun. - OXMonline
  • SayburrSayburr The Always Informative Rock Band Forum Guru
    edited April 2012
    ... adding the following to the first post:

    "There were two reasons we settled on two [lanes for each instrument]: one was that the modern controller is better suited to two [lanes] instead of three [like the gameplay of] Frequency and Amplitude. But I think a more fundamental reason is that the choice was to let you focus a measure or two down the track as you play through and let you strategize about what your'e doing to do. And we found that if we took a little mental load off the beat matching and made it just a little bit easier to comprehend; you had the mental space to think about the strategy of what you're going to do to maximize your score." – The Verge

    In order to make all [playable Rock Band] songs compatible with the completely different gameplay of Blitz, the engineers at Harmonix created an algorithm they came to know as "Blitz-ificiation." That systemic process happens on song loads, remapping the original five-note gameplay to Blitz's two notes. When asked if that approach created any complications, like tracks that weren't fun or too difficult, Nordhaus said, "Fortunately so far we've been able to fix all of those by just tweaking the algorithm. So we don't expect that there will be any manual changes to any of the songs when we ship the game." – The Verge
  • SayburrSayburr The Always Informative Rock Band Forum Guru
    edited April 2012
    kiggidykev;4695970 said:
    Was "Once Bitten" confirmed to be part of Blitz, or perhaps it could be a piece of upcoming DLC? The Blitz page has the four other songs confirmed, but not that one.
    It is in the menu, as seen in this video: http://www.g4tv.com/videos/58009/harmonix-announces-rock-band-blitz/ @ 2:25 mark... heck, it might be upcoming DLC... I will mark it as a rumor...
  • PankrazzoPankrazzo Road Warrior
    edited April 2012
    One difficulty level? My god this will be terrible.
  • Lowlander2Lowlander2 FaIling Star
    edited April 2012
    DToid interview

    You get to see a snippet of how legacy DLC transfers, in this case "Bang Camaro" by Bang Camaro. Notice how a complex guitar solo is reduced to rapidly alternating between two buttons.

    Notice how my interest wanes.
  • FujiSkunkFujiSkunk Headliner
    edited April 2012
    Pankrazzo;4696007 said:
    One difficulty level? My god this will be terrible.

    The songs themselves will provide different levels of difficulty. Remember those six tiers?
  • LensnartLensnart Opening Act
    edited April 2012
    I have no interest in the actual game at all, but it has Pumped Up Kicks so i will buy it just as an RB3 track pack.
  • TheDescentTheDescent Road Warrior
    edited April 2012
    Pankrazzo;4696007 said:
    One difficulty level? My god this will be terrible.

    Audiosurf have 1 difficulty level, and many ways to play. I think this one is sort of the same.
    Lowlander2;4696010 said:
    DToid interview

    You get to see a snippet of how legacy DLC transfers, in this case "Bang Camaro" by Bang Camaro. Notice how a complex guitar solo is reduced to rapidly alternating between two buttons.

    Notice how my interest wanes.

    Notice how a complex guitar solo is reduced to rapidly clicking between 5 buttons.
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