Take The Star Spangled Banner Challenge!

edited July 2012 in Less Rokk More Talk
This is so awesome, please post it everywhere!

www.starspangledbannerchallenge.com

Comments

  • edited July 2012
    HeyRiles;4825661 said:
    I thought it was a garbage cover and an exceptionally callous way to advertise your own band by appealing to peoples' patriotism, and I'm offended that I watched that video for their sake
    No, guys, GUYS, please, if you are not Patriotic, that is one thing, I tried not to make this political, but they did this for a reason!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ctr2yaf9w5o
  • LiveHomeVideoLiveHomeVideo Trying too hard
    edited July 2012
    mercuryshadow09;4825684 said:
    No, guys, GUYS, please, if you are not Patriotic, that is one thing, I tried not to make this political, but they did this for a reason!

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=Ctr2yaf9w5o

    I don't hate our anthem. I hate the idea of spreading a video around for views trying to make it look like a patriotic cause.
  • edited July 2012
    Some of you make me not want to contribute to this site, I stopped posting here a long time ago and came back because I thought it would be different here, it's not! Pretty sad really!
  • BohemianMattBohemianMatt Headliner
    edited July 2012
    Their whole claim is ridiculous. None of those people hate America just because they dislike the National Anthem, they just the song. Kurt Vonnegut said it best. The National Anthem is "gibberish, sprinkled with question marks."
  • BohemianMattBohemianMatt Headliner
    edited July 2012
    Also, is this thread locked yet?
  • LiveHomeVideoLiveHomeVideo Trying too hard
    edited July 2012
    mercuryshadow09;4825687 said:
    Some of you make me not want to contribute to this site, I stopped posting here a long time ago and came back because I thought it would be different here, it's not! Pretty sad really!

    I don't get it. Are you taking this challenge that seriously?

    Look, as I've explained, I have nothing against our national anthem. I am a patriotic individual. But all I see in this challenge is "Let's get a million views and downloads!" instead of " Let's try to spread the patriotic spirit for election day!"

    That's all I'm saying about the matter. I'm sorry if that bums you out, sir, but that is my view.
  • edited July 2012
    How can you not feel a sense of pride and Patriotism listening to it? Are any of you Veterans?
  • edited July 2012
    LiveHomeVideo;4825690 said:
    I don't get it. Are you taking this challenge that seriously?

    Look, as I've explained, I have nothing against our national anthem. I am a patriotic individual. But all I see in this challenge is "Let's get a million views and downloads!" instead of " Let's try to spread the patriotic spirit for election day!"

    That's all I'm saying about the matter. I'm sorry if that bums you out, sir, but that is my view.
    That's what it seemed like to me. It would be a neat idea if it was a genuine attempt to bring back patriotism but it sounded like a band just trying to get a video to go viral. They should have just done a cover of the Nyan Cat song.
  • BohemianMattBohemianMatt Headliner
    edited July 2012
    I take some enjoyment in listening to the song, but in the end, it's about glorifying the aspects of war.

    The guy in the video said it was "cool enough for Hendrix to cover," but if you go and listen to the Hendrix version, you'll notice that Hendrix mimics explosions and gunfire on his guitar, not out of respect, but as a social commentary.
  • LiveHomeVideoLiveHomeVideo Trying too hard
    edited July 2012
    mercuryshadow09;4825691 said:
    How can you not feel a sense of pride and Patriotism listening to it? Are any of you Veterans?

    I do get a sense of pride and patriotism from listening to it. But no, I'm not a veteran. But that doesn't mean I have a random cover of it to satisfy a challenge. It's one of those things that should be done on it's own initiative, rather than to fulfill a band's need for views.

    Though I do find it ironic that my favorite version is the Hendrix version, which was pretty much more of a social documentary through song rather than a heartfelt patriotic move.
  • BohemianMattBohemianMatt Headliner
    edited July 2012
    Their version of the song is pretty good. The lyrics are just really, really, goofy.
  • edited July 2012
    I grew up singing the national anthem in school and felt proud singing loud, I grew up and joined the service and fought for my country, it makes me really sad to see people talking like this, was my service in vain?
  • LiveHomeVideoLiveHomeVideo Trying too hard
    edited July 2012
    mercuryshadow09;4825699 said:
    I grew up singing the national anthem in school and felt proud singing loud, I grew up and joined the service and fought for my country, it makes me really sad to see people talking like this, was my service in vain?

    Again, I don't think this is about being non-patriotic. I think this is the fact that this challenge is advertising disguised as patriotism. Nothing more.
  • HeyRilesHeyRiles Besse's Girl
    edited July 2012
    mercuryshadow09;4825691 said:
    How can you not feel a sense of pride and Patriotism listening to it? Are any of you Veterans?
    I don't, because it's a terrible cover and an awful bastardization of our national anthem, and no, I'm not a veteran
    mercuryshadow09;4825699 said:
    I grew up singing the national anthem in school and felt proud singing loud, I grew up and joined the service and fought for my country, it makes me really sad to see people talking like this, was my service in vain?

    Your service has nothing to do with it because it was a terrible cover as a cheap gimmick to promote their own band which has nothing to do with my patriotism or the fact that I too sing the national anthem every time I go to gameday in Auburn or Orlando Magic games
  • BachiGBachiG Inconceivable...
    edited July 2012
    Not at all. Everyone here respects and thanks you for your service. I even love our national anthem. I think we all just disagree with a band (possibly) using that as a front to gain views or publicity.
  • BohemianMattBohemianMatt Headliner
    edited July 2012
    People are making a lot of assumptions about patriotism. We're not talking about the country, or even an aspect of the country. We're talking about a song. If someone doesn't like the National Anthem, does that mean they don't like the country? Of course not.

    Mercuryshadow, was your service in vain? No way, dude! To me, this whole Nationalism revival is unnecessary. I know plenty of patriotic people, and that's great.
  • edited July 2012
    I don't agree with you, I think it is VERY necessary to revive Patriotism, we have lost our way as a nation of Patriots, remember it was Patriots that made this country what it is and kept it free!
  • edited July 2012
    The national anthem is a tribute to those Patriots and OUR brothers still serving today!
  • LiveHomeVideoLiveHomeVideo Trying too hard
    edited July 2012
    Political views are not something to be taken lightly on these forums. Any mod would tell you that. So before we get into a heated political debate I thought I should warn you that these kinds of arguments can lead to negative circumstances.
  • HeyRilesHeyRiles Besse's Girl
    edited July 2012
    I'm going to avoid the political debate and instead say that I'm not really sure I've ever truthfully understood the lyrics to the national anthem
  • edited July 2012
    Isn't really political and I don't wish to make it about politics, I'd like it to be about being proud to be an American!
  • edited July 2012
    If there is anything taken more seriously than the US flag, it's possibly the national anthem. The Star-spangled Banner accompanies just about every major American function, and at major sporting events a significant honour is bestowed on those asked to sing what is probably the best known national anthem in the world.
    Listen closely to the words and it tells of a highly emotional moment in US history when the war with the British was being fought and of one man's relief in seeing the US flag still flying after a vicious bombardment.
    Before the Battle
    The War of 1812 had been a particularly nasty conflict with the British. They had burned down the Capitol and the White House in Washington, and were set on taking the port of Baltimore, which was protected in part by Fort McHenry, just to the south.

    On September 7th, 1814, during the build-up to the attack on Baltimore, two Americans, Colonel John Skinner and a lawyer and part-time poet by the name of Francis Scott Key, had gone out to one of the British ships. They had come to negotiate the release of Dr William Beanes, a friend of Key who had been seized following the attack on Washington. The British agreed, but all three had learned too much about the forthcoming attack on Baltimore and so were detained by the British on board the frigate Surprise until it was over.
    The Defense of Fort McHenry
    The attack started on September 12th, 1814, and after an initial exchange of fire, the fleet withdrew to form an arc just outside the range of Fort McHenry's fire.

    Skinner, Beanes and Key watched much of the bombardment from the British deck. The major attack started in heavy rain on the morning of September 13th. Just under three miles in the distance the three men caught glimpses of the star-shaped fort with its huge flag - 42ft long, with 8 red stripes, 7 white stripes and 15 white stars, and specially commissioned to be big enough that the British could not possibly fail to see it from a distance.
    In the dark of the night of the 13th, the shelling suddenly stopped. Through the darkness they couldn't tell whether the British forces had been defeated, or the fort had fallen.
    As the rain cleared, and the sun began to rise, Key peered through the lifting darkness anxious to see if the flag they had seen the night before was still flying. And so it was that he scribbled on the back of an envelope the first lines of a poem he called Defense of Fort M'Henry:
    O, say can you see, by the dawn's early light,
    What so proudly we hail'd at the twilight's last gleaming
    As the mist started to clear he was aware that there was a flag flying - but was it the British flag? It was difficult to tell:
    What is that which the breeze o'er the towering steep,
    As it fitfully blows, half conceals, half discloses?
    But finally the sun rose, and with intense relief and pride he saw that the fort had withstood the onslaught ...
    'Tis the star-spangled banner - O long may it wave
    O'er the land of the free and the home of the brave.
    The poem
    Keys, Beanes and Skinner were taken by the British back to shore on Friday, September 16th. In his room in the Indian Queen Hotel, Keys
    completed all four verses of the poem, and the following morning he took it to his brother-in-law, a local judge, who thought it so good that he arranged to have it printed as a handbill. Printing was completed by Monday morning, and the copies were distributed to everyone at the Fort.
    Key made a number of hand-written copies of his original poem, introducing occasional changes as he did so. But it wasn't just Key that made alterations; various editors along the way have also had a hand in altering spelling, punctuation and even the words. The original text of the poem has therefore varied depending on where you read it.
    The tune
    It is possible that Key only ever intended this as a poem; there was nothing in his original notes to suggest a tune. However, there was a very popular tune of the time, which Key would have been familiar and for which had been written many differents sets of words. Perhaps the most notable of these was Robert Treat Paine's ode, Adams and Liberty, written for the Massachusetts Charitable Fire Society in 1798. All these songs had the same very distinctive form and metre, and there can be no doubt that Key was heavily influenced by it (and may even have had it in mind).
    When the handbills were printed, they did bear the name of this tune to which the poem should be sung - To Anacreon In Heaven. Somewhat ironically, this is a song written for a British drinking club!
    The Anacreontic Society was a popular genetlemen's drinking club, based in a pub in the Strand, London. The words of the song had been written by the society's president, Ralph Tomlinson, but the tune is more of a mystery.
    At one time, the English composer Dr Thomas Arnold was thought to be its composer - Arnold had written numerous songs for the society. However, it is now accepted that the tune was probably written collectively by a group of members, led by John Stafford Smith, probably in 1771.
    The poem and tune become an anthem
    In 1916, President Woodrow Wilson ordered that it should become the National Anthem played by the military and naval services, but it wasn't until March 3rd, 1931 that it was officially designated as the National Anthem by act of Congress:
    Be it enacted by the Senate and House of Representatives of the United States of America in Congress assembled, That the composition known as The Star-spangled Banner is designated as the National Anthem of the United States of America.
    In the third verse of the poem, Key expresses his particular bitterness towards the British:
    Their blood has washed out their foul footsteps' pollution
    No refuge could save the hireling & slave
    From the terror of flight or the gloom of the grave
    An understandable feeling of the time, but as the two nations came closer, such sentiments weren't considered appropriate and as a result this third verse is usually omitted. A couple of alternative verses have been written in later years, and these are included on the page containing the text of the Anthem.
    One of the original copies that Key wrote was sold to the Maryland Historical Society for $26,400 in 1953. Of the original printed versions, it is believed that only eleven copies still exist and the only known copy that is in private hands was sold by Christie's on 3rd December, 2010, for $506,500. The actual flag that he saw is preserved in the Smithsonian Institution.
  • edited July 2012
    Maybe it's because I grew up in Boston, but all this was required learning for us, and I know they don't teach it as aggressively in other places!
  • LiveHomeVideoLiveHomeVideo Trying too hard
    edited July 2012
    Again, us not wanting to give this video a view is not anti-patriotism. It's simply seeing what the channel is doing, and instead not giving them the view.

    None of us said we were anti-patriotic. Some of us may have said the song isn't that awesome, but that's all a matter of personal taste rather than hating on the beloved land we live on.
  • www1221www1221 StackOverflowError
    edited July 2012
    I love America but we kinda suck big time.
  • DangimarockerDangimarocker Headliner
    edited July 2012
    This sounds like a Foo fighters meets heavier instruments...
    I found it annoying actually...

    But what this band is doing is not patriotic IMO, they are doing this to get views and more money out of peoples hands that like their version (because people that like it are potential to buy future songs)
    Makes you wonder if they have their youtube set up to get money too...
  • HeyRilesHeyRiles Besse's Girl
    edited July 2012
    I understood the part about the flag still standing in 1814 before that post, but the rest is gibberish to me. It just isn't coherent

    I've always found America the Beautiful to paint a far better representation of patriotism, and certainly does a far better justice for our troops
  • DemonUnicornsDemonUnicorns Normally Dumb
    edited July 2012
    The jist of what I'm hearing is that the band is disguising their video as one with a patriotic motive when really they just want views. Who can blame them? Wouldn't you want to make a video and have it get many views? Idk, my thoughts. They aren't saying they are against the song, just what the band is trying to do with it.
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