Xbox One

Lawdog1521Lawdog1521 Squirrel Chasing Expert
edited June 2013 in Less Rokk More Talk
I figured we needed an official thread. And after today's presser... I figured I'd try to say something nice about MS's new $400 remote control.

So... it's shiny.

- It WONT function without a kinect sensor attached.
- There will be 15 Exclusive IP's released in the first year. 8 are completely new
- The Xbox ones power can grow over time with cloud computing.
- Gamerscores, Avatars and profile information WILL carry over to next gen.
- It WONT be backwards compatible.
- Here's a list of confirmed games
- It WONT require a constant internet connection

Thanks to Munnchy for the update. (Even though now I'll be expected to update when new stuff comes out)

- Zavvi have given an initial price point of £400 with a release date of 30th November in the UK, although that hasn't been confirmed yet.
- Used games CAN be used, without an additional fee.
- There may be mandatory game installs
- CoD dlc will, once again, be exclusive to the Xbox for a limited time (BIG shock there!)

Comments

  • WittikissWittikiss Road Warrior
    edited May 2013
    HeyRiles;5016413 said:
    I'm guessing buying 'used' is saying you can purchase used games through your XBone from other gamers who have sold their rights to play the game away. No idea if they will be sold at a reduced price, though, or if they will use the market-style selling that has become popular in Diablo III and Steam, where Microsoft receives 15% of the commission

    That makes sense for a used DLC standpoint, but not an actual physical software... Unless the game simply acts as a key and the games have to be downloaded to the console to play. Which with their full price activation thing going on, that would make sense.
  • HeyRilesHeyRiles Besse's Girl
    edited May 2013
    I'm pretty sure that's what they're doing. Like I said earlier the disc itself functions as an activation code for the software. I don't believe the disc itself will contain any data other than the code and license to play the game (which would mean the game itself would utilize cloud mechanics), so when the authorization code is used, the disc is used. From there, I guess the plan would be to trade/sell the license/authorization code from account to account, and the disc and case is sort of nothing more than a collectible novelty

    That's just my speculation based on the bits and pieces I've read, though
  • edited May 2013
    I don't know, to me this just confirms the "curse" of winning a gen's console war... you become overconfident in the next gen and make stupid/unpopular design choices. (Lots of historical examples of this... PS2 -> PS3 being the most recent)

    For a gaming console I sure see a lot of talk and features which aren't related to games. I understand Microsoft is trying to break into the living room with this combined TV/PC experience, but I don't value this integrated experience they are pushing.

    Obviously first impressions are incomplete at best, but I didn't hear anything compelling that is going to make me a day 1 buyer.
  • firedoom666firedoom666 Headliner
    edited May 2013
    www1221;5016419 said:

    but you still need to be signed into your profile, which means waiting for it to download to your friends xbox... and you can't let friends borrow games
  • www1221www1221 StackOverflowError
    edited May 2013
    firedoom666;5016420 said:
    but you still need to be signed into your profile, which means waiting for it to download to your friends xbox... and you can't let friends borrow games

    They can borrow your games just have to pay the fee which will probably be the same as the online passes. If $10 is too expensive for you maybe video games shouldnt be your top priority. If the fee is full price then yeah thatll suck
  • OsagaRockHeroOsagaRockHero Still Disappointed
    edited May 2013
    Wittikiss;5016408 said:
    OK can anybody tell me what compelled Madden to stop using the year and just go with Madden 25?

    Haven't you heard? It's the year 2025 now!
  • HeyRilesHeyRiles Besse's Girl
    edited May 2013
    firedoom666;5016420 said:
    but you still need to be signed into your profile, which means waiting for it to download to your friends xbox... and you can't let friends borrow games
    Downloading a new profile takes virtually no time at all now, even on the current 360, thanks to cloud services
    www1221;5016421 said:
    They can borrow your games just have to pay the fee which will probably be the same as the online passes. If $10 is too expensive for you maybe video games shouldnt be your top priority. If the fee is full price then yeah thatll suck

    It is full price, they have confirmed that bringing the same disc to a different console with a different Gamertag will treat the disc as brand new
    www1221;5016421 said:
    If $10 is too expensive for you maybe video games shouldnt be your top priority.

    You're such an incorrigible piece of bologna. Stop being such a buntzhole
  • firedoom666firedoom666 Headliner
    edited May 2013
    HeyRiles;5016425 said:
    Downloading a new profile takes virtually no time at all now, even on the current 360, thanks to cloud services

    oh it is that quick now? I have not downloaded it to a different console for a very long time, I remember it taking a long time back then but that could of been for different reasons
    www1221;5016421 said:
    They can borrow your games just have to pay the fee which will probably be the same as the online passes. If $10 is too expensive for you maybe video games shouldnt be your top priority. If the fee is full price then yeah thatll suck
    I got to agree with HeyRiles here... You're such an incorrigible piece of bologna. Stop being such a buntzhole
  • OsagaRockHeroOsagaRockHero Still Disappointed
    edited May 2013
    www1221;5016421 said:
    If $10 is too expensive for you maybe video games shouldnt be your top priority.

    Hey, did you hear that the new Rock Band game is going to have mandatory DLC that needs to be bought, but you can only use it for a limited time?
  • HeyRilesHeyRiles Besse's Girl
    edited May 2013
    OsagaRockHero;5016428 said:
    Hey, did you hear that the new Rock Band game is going to have mandatory DLC that needs to be bought, but you can only use it for a limited time?

    You really need to stop making Rock Band your top priority here
  • DerLindwurmDerLindwurm Road Warrior
    edited May 2013
    Looks like I'm getting a PS4. I want a game console. Not a motion and voice controlled novelty item.
  • ClaptonsWigClaptonsWig I Can't Dance
    edited May 2013
    DerLindwurm;5016448 said:
    Looks like I'm getting a PS4. I want a game console. Not a video and voice controlled novelty item.

    Agreed, good thing I still have my core PS3 friends
  • killer_roachkiller_roach Washed Up
    edited May 2013
    There's only one way to describe the reveal...

    ...a gigantic fustercluck.
  • JBlack240JBlack240 Road Warrior
    edited May 2013
    Guess I'll be getting as much out of my 360 as I possibly can.
  • MySummerJobMySummerJob Road Warrior
    edited May 2013
    I love my 360, but it looks like I am going PS4 next gen...

    Well, unless Sony has some hidden surprises for us?
  • Lawdog1521Lawdog1521 Squirrel Chasing Expert
    edited May 2013
    For those that missed it, here's today's presser summed up in two minutes. And having watched it live, trust me, this video was dead on.
  • raynebcraynebc Road Warrior
    edited May 2013
    Munnchy;5016354 said:
    Used games CAN be used, without an additional fee.

    I'm definitely looking forward to some more concrete details than single sentences from Major Nelson or a Twitter account.
    Lawdog1521;5016492 said:
    For those that missed it, here's today's presser summed up in two minutes. And having watched it live, trust me, this video was dead on.

    Wow... Why the hell would people want to use their game console to watch TV when the console has to be hooked up to a TV anyway? My understanding is that it just displays the TV/Cable/Satellite channels you already have?
  • WittikissWittikiss Road Warrior
    edited May 2013
    raynebc;5016516 said:
    Wow... Why the hell would people want to use their game console to watch TV when the console has to be hooked up to a TV anyway? My understanding is that it just displays the TV/Cable/Satellite channels you already have?

    I've been asking this since I first heard about it. Another forum member kindly stated that "We are not the intended audience." All I have to say is that my wife has her TV to watch TV and I have my system to play games. Her remote works just fine and we are able to do things simultaneously without fighting that I have friends who want to play a game while she has a show she wants to watch. Putting these features in an expensive device means a family will have most likely only one and a constant fight over who can watch their shows saved to the Xbox, who can play games, or who can surf the internet. There's a reason we separate these devices.
  • ClaptonsWigClaptonsWig I Can't Dance
    edited May 2013
    Lawdog1521;5016492 said:
    For those that missed it, here's today's presser summed up in two minutes. And having watched it live, trust me, this video was dead on.

    Will watch this after work
  • WittikissWittikiss Road Warrior
    edited May 2013
    ClaptonsWig;5016529 said:
    Will watch this after work

    I'll sum it up the way a comment on the site summed it up for me.
    TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. SPORTS. SPORTS. SPORTS. SPORTS. SPORTS. SPORTS. SPORTS. SPORTS. SPORTS. SPORTS. SPORTS. SPORTS. SPORTS. SPORTS. CALL OF DUTY. CALL OF DUTY. CALL OF DUTY. CALL OF DUTY. CALL OF DUTY. CALL OF DUTY. CALL OF DUTY. CALL OF DUTY. CALL OF DUTY. CALL OF DUTY. CALL OF DUTY. CALL OF DUTY. CALL OF DUTY. CALL OF DUTY. CALL OF DUTY. CALL OF DUTY. CALL OF DUTY. CALL OF DUTY. CALL OF DUTY. CALL OF DUTY. CALL OF DUTY. CALL OF DUTY. CALL OF DUTY. CALL OF DUTY. CALL OF DUTY. CALL OF DUTY. DOG.DOG.DOG.DOG.DOG.DOG.DOG. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. TV. XBOX GO HOME.
  • CJHobbesCJHobbes Road Warrior
    edited May 2013
    I wasn't planning on buying a new console day 1 anyway; this just cements my decision to stick with my 360 for a while longer. The only exclusive that interests me is Forza 5 and for that, I can wait.

    I suppose it was only a matter of time until they started integrating everything into one system, and that time is now. As far as the TV feature, I'd still rather build my own machine for all my DVR needs.
  • Meat-PopsicleMeat-Popsicle Road Warrior
    edited May 2013
    There's nowhere to go but up for MS. I predict their E3 presentation [game footage!] will get a lot more positive coverage than this one.
  • bigmfbigmf Tiny Hulk Smash!
    edited May 2013
    I think this has been the most disastrous new console announcement I've seen. They should have addressed the mandatory internet connection issue, mandatory kinect usage, no game trading and even backwards compatibility. They didn't do it. They let it all seep out of various channels after their event. The answers given were less than straightforward or contradictory. They spent more than half of the frigging event talking about tv services; and after the fact we find out it will be US only at launch. For people in any other country, the event showed features you will pay for but not receive until some nebulous date in the future. As a Canadian, the XBox One can cram it until such time as it's fully functional. The European market has been effectively given up to Sony.
  • Dadasaurus RexDadasaurus Rex Rawwwwwwr!
    edited May 2013
    I will be foregoing the "1" and getting a Wii U which apparently is the only new console where RB export has been fully addressed. Guess this is my reward for suffering through with Ninty the past five years.
  • www1221www1221 StackOverflowError
    edited May 2013
    Wittikiss;5016531 said:
    I'll sum it up the way a comment on the site summed it up for me.

    That is incorrect.

    Call of Duty ended the show.
  • ClaptonsWigClaptonsWig I Can't Dance
    edited May 2013
    www1221;5016586 said:
    That is incorrect.

    Call of Duty ended the show.

    Your opinion.
  • www1221www1221 StackOverflowError
    edited May 2013
    ClaptonsWig;5016588 said:
    Your opinion.

    Hello, Pizzza.
  • Dadasaurus RexDadasaurus Rex Rawwwwwwr!
    edited May 2013
    Are you two dummies gonna start brawling?
  • raynebcraynebc Road Warrior
    edited May 2013
    Wittikiss;5016521 said:
    Putting these features in an expensive device means a family will have most likely only one and a constant fight over who can watch their shows saved to the Xbox, who can play games, or who can surf the internet.

    Now that I think about it, if it could act as a DVR and record shows while you're playing games, that could be useful. If it could record multiple shows at once like some DVRs can, even better. If it can't do either of those, then I don't see the use.
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