My Custom ION Drum Rocker Setup for Rock Band 4

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Here are my details. Let's play.

Brain, Cables & Rack: Ion Drum Rocker for Xbox 360 (Only Original Parts)
Cymbals: 2 x Pintech TC-14 (Ride & Crash) & 1 x Pintect TC-10 (HiHat)
Pads: 3 x Roland PD-8a (Tom Toms) & 1 x Roland Pd-85 (Snare)
Pedal: Rock Pedal and Gibraltar Bass Drum Pad
System: X-Box One
GamerTag: BigRonnie

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  • SirPuttsAlotSirPuttsAlot Unsigned
    edited January 2

    Here are my details. Let's play.

    Very Nice Setup. By "Let's Play" are you looking to make a Drum Porn Thread? If so, here is the music side of my Man Cave:
    • Yamaha DTX750K with:
    • Upgraded snare to 12" XP120SD
    • 10" XP100SD Floor Tom.
    • I use the Yamaha DD950 Direct Drive Bass Petal (Direct Drive is awesome)
    • Simmons Amp for when I am not playing Rock Band.
    That's also my Les Paul against the wall for playing Rocksmith and a Marshall DSL40C Amp for messing around outside of Rocksmith. Just outside the picture is a Fender CD140-SCE Electro-Accoustic.


  • MusashiMusashi Unsigned
    This is helpful. I have an Ion Drum Rocker as well. I may need some spare parts for it so this helps identify pads and cymbals I can use.
  • CountWaescheCountWaesche Opening Act
    I have an Ion rocker and I am looking for a replacement snare, but jeez are these expensive. You guys must be single.....
  • LordFlatusLordFlatus Rising Star

    Here are my details. Let's play.

    Very Nice Setup. By "Let's Play" are you looking to make a Drum Porn Thread? If so, here is the music side of my Man Cave:
    • Yamaha DTX750K with:
    • Upgraded snare to 12" XP120SD
    • 10" XP100SD Floor Tom.
    • I use the Yamaha DD950 Direct Drive Bass Petal (Direct Drive is awesome)
    • Simmons Amp for when I am not playing Rock Band.
    That's also my Les Paul against the wall for playing Rocksmith and a Marshall DSL40C Amp for messing around outside of Rocksmith. Just outside the picture is a Fender CD140-SCE Electro-Accoustic.
    Nice setup. You should be splitting your guitar signal and playing through that amp while you play Rocksmith, too.
  • LordFlatusLordFlatus Rising Star
    I need to take new picture of my rig. And put my guitars in the background. :)

    Pintech 12" snare, TC-10 hi-hat, and those clear PC-14s have been replaced with TC-14s. I use a Yamaha kick-pad with a kick-wire, all going to the Ion brain.

  • CountWaescheCountWaesche Opening Act

    I need to take new picture of my rig. And put my guitars in the background. :)

    Pintech 12" snare, TC-10 hi-hat, and those clear PC-14s have been replaced with TC-14s. I use a Yamaha kick-pad with a kick-wire, all going to the Ion brain.

    Which snare, exactly? Curious here.
  • RiffRaff4711RiffRaff4711 Unsigned
    edited January 3
    That looks like an older Pintech ConcertCast 12" Mesh Pad, either single or dual zone. I previously used one just like it.
  • LordFlatusLordFlatus Rising Star

    That looks like an older Pintech ConcertCast 12" Mesh Pad, either single or dual zone. I previously used one just like it.

    Yes, it's the older CC 12" dual zone. It doesn't have the sensitivity adjustment knob like the new ones. I was going to run do some tinkering to get the right zone to the Ion brain, but it just works with a regular 1/4" TS cable so I didn't even have to futz with it. I got a great deal on it from pintechworld.com because it was a lone white one with maybe a ding or scratch on it somewhere. I think I got if for like the regular price of a 8" single zone.
  • @LordFlatus That's a Solid setup you have there, very nice job putting that together.
  • joseph5185joseph5185 Opening Act
    edited January 3
    I have the exact Pintech 12" CC DZ, but mine does have the sensitivity knobs. Idk that they are necessary though.

    In looking at various set-ups for Rock Band it looks like that Tom 3 (or green) is placed fairly in line with the other two toms (yellow and blue) as far as height is concerned. I guess it's all personal preference, but for Rock Band it probably is more convenient and makes more sense to have less distance on that 3rd Tom for playability reasons.

    I might have my Tom 3 a bit too low. It's not as low as the snare, but close. Also it's not flat like the snare. It's angled slightly. Seems to be a bit tricky to get that "perfect" angle so the stick doesn't bounce off funny or uncomfortably with stick hits.

    Good stuff!

    I would like to add that I have Pintech mesh pads for all my toms as well, but believe it or not..idk that it's ideal. Sure the performance is fine and everything but those metal rims that surround the pad can get rather annoying when you improperly hit the pad and hit that metal rim instead.

    I used to just have the one pintech for the snare and I did what you did @LordFlatus, I just used the iON pads. I didn't really have a problem with this.

    ...I guess the takeaway is that just because something may be nicer doesn't necessarily mean it's "better".
  • uppyb0tuppyb0t Opening Act


    Cymbals L-R:
    Y, B, G, B, G
  • LordFlatusLordFlatus Rising Star

    In looking at various set-ups for Rock Band it looks like that Tom 3 (or green) is placed fairly in line with the other two toms (yellow and blue) as far as height is concerned. I guess it's all personal preference, but for Rock Band it probably is more convenient and makes more sense to have less distance on that 3rd Tom for playability reasons.

    I might have my Tom 3 a bit too low. It's not as low as the snare, but close. Also it's not flat like the snare. It's angled slightly. Seems to be a bit tricky to get that "perfect" angle so the stick doesn't bounce off funny or uncomfortably with stick hits.

    I try to set up my green pad more like a real floor tom, but I end up "losing touch" with where it is during chaotic songs. I try for a realistic setup, but real drummers look at their drums from time to time instead of being locked on a video screen that force-feeds them notes. :) I'd actually like to get another 12" for the floor tom just so it's more realistic. Or maybe pick up a 10" and use that for snare and move the 12 over to green.

    I would like to add that I have Pintech mesh pads for all my toms as well, but believe it or not..idk that it's ideal. Sure the performance is fine and everything but those metal rims that surround the pad can get rather annoying when you improperly hit the pad and hit that metal rim instead.

    Go to the pintech.com (I guess they managed to snag that domain name and have dropped the "world' from it) site and order the rubber hoop trim. They're ten bucks per drum right now. I put one on my snare and it is great. When I whack the rim it is almost silent now. If you have the pintech CC pads they lock right in and I highly recommend it. (I don't know a lot about drums so I don't know if they work on all types of pads.)
  • joseph5185joseph5185 Opening Act
    edited January 3

    In looking at various set-ups for Rock Band it looks like that Tom 3 (or green) is placed fairly in line with the other two toms (yellow and blue) as far as height is concerned. I guess it's all personal preference, but for Rock Band it probably is more convenient and makes more sense to have less distance on that 3rd Tom for playability reasons.

    I might have my Tom 3 a bit too low. It's not as low as the snare, but close. Also it's not flat like the snare. It's angled slightly. Seems to be a bit tricky to get that "perfect" angle so the stick doesn't bounce off funny or uncomfortably with stick hits.

    I try to set up my green pad more like a real floor tom, but I end up "losing touch" with where it is during chaotic songs. I try for a realistic setup, but real drummers look at their drums from time to time instead of being locked on a video screen that force-feeds them notes. :) I'd actually like to get another 12" for the floor tom just so it's more realistic. Or maybe pick up a 10" and use that for snare and move the 12 over to green.

    I would like to add that I have Pintech mesh pads for all my toms as well, but believe it or not..idk that it's ideal. Sure the performance is fine and everything but those metal rims that surround the pad can get rather annoying when you improperly hit the pad and hit that metal rim instead.

    Go to the pintech.com (I guess they managed to snag that domain name and have dropped the "world' from it) site and order the rubber hoop trim. They're ten bucks per drum right now. I put one on my snare and it is great. When I whack the rim it is almost silent now. If you have the pintech CC pads they lock right in and I highly recommend it. (I don't know a lot about drums so I don't know if they work on all types of pads.)
    Oh damn.. that's fantastic man! That's literally like my biggest complaint with them. I appreciate this. Also, yea...I try to resemble an actual kit as well, but when it comes to that 3rd tom or floor tom when it's in an actual position it feels like a bit of a compromise.

    So you are considering having 4 toms (not including snare)? .. I'll most definitely have to check out those rubber hoop trims. I have 2 12's and actually 3 10's ..

    EDIT: i think it's actually 2 10s and 3 8s. I'll have to confirm. Could of swore they were 12s.
  • LordFlatusLordFlatus Rising Star
    Ideally I would go 8/10/12 across the toms and then maybe another 12 for the snare. Realistically I might eventually end up with 8/8/12 across the toms and a 10 for snare. Pragmatically, 8/8/8 across the toms with Pintech mesh head mods on the Ion pads and keep the 12 at snare. :)

    I'm not considering 4 toms. I would replace an Ion pad with a new CC pad.
  • Looking at these drum sets as a drummer myself , it's hard to look at my drum in a box and think positive of it
  • Nice setup. You should be splitting your guitar signal and playing through that amp while you play Rocksmith, too.

    No way... I'm no where near good enough to even want to hear myself play along with the song as lead, maybe as rhythm, but no way lead.
  • LordFlatusLordFlatus Rising Star

    Nice setup. You should be splitting your guitar signal and playing through that amp while you play Rocksmith, too.

    No way... I'm no where near good enough to even want to hear myself play along with the song as lead, maybe as rhythm, but no way lead.
    There's no better way to get better than to actually hear how you sound. While it won't be elite, I'm willing to bet it's nowhere near as bad as you're expecting. :)
  • Nice setup. You should be splitting your guitar signal and playing through that amp while you play Rocksmith, too.

    No way... I'm no where near good enough to even want to hear myself play along with the song as lead, maybe as rhythm, but no way lead.
    There's no better way to get better than to actually hear how you sound. While it won't be elite, I'm willing to bet it's nowhere near as bad as you're expecting. :)
    That's way I don't use the fender that much. As an Acoustic-Electric, playing in the game, my sucky guitar overpowers the real tone of Rocksmith. I really only use if for American Pie, which was the first (and maybe only) song I Mastered. If you have a guitar laying around the house, I'm playing American Pie on it, if you also have a Capo I'm probably playing Hallelujah :)

    Other than that, I'm useless without the game.
  • Lots of great kits guys. Keep em coming.
  • I have an Ion rocker and I am looking for a replacement snare, but jeez are these expensive. You guys must be single.....

    I actually bought mine for $100 used from Sam Ash about 3y ago. Wasn't too bad.
  • uppyb0t said:



    Cymbals L-R:
    Y, B, G, B, G

    Nice kit man. How did you split your Blue & Green cymbals?
  • joseph5185joseph5185 Opening Act
    edited January 6
    So that I understand this better, you guys are placing a blue (crash) next to your hi-hat for the sake of HMX likes to chart open or closed hi-hat to blue .. so it provides a more realistic feel?

    Because this isn't otherwise a typical set-up... correct?
  • LoopyChewLoopyChew Wordsmith
    I would presume so. It's kind of sad to me that there's no built-in Y->B function for the hi-hat pedal, because RB3 showed that it could detect the state of the pedal (for I think obvious reasons) during freestyle and I think that would be even more awesome than having to program it in your drum brain.
  • joseph5185joseph5185 Opening Act
    LoopyChew said:

    I would presume so. It's kind of sad to me that there's no built-in Y->B function for the hi-hat pedal, because RB3 showed that it could detect the state of the pedal (for I think obvious reasons) during freestyle and I think that would be even more awesome than having to program it in your drum brain.

    LoopyChew said:

    I would presume so. It's kind of sad to me that there's no built-in Y->B function for the hi-hat pedal, because RB3 showed that it could detect the state of the pedal (for I think obvious reasons) during freestyle and I think that would be even more awesome than having to program it in your drum brain.

    And because there isn't @LoopyChew, I really don't understand the purpose of a hi-hat pedal in Rock Band.
  • LoopyChewLoopyChew Wordsmith

    LoopyChew said:

    I would presume so. It's kind of sad to me that there's no built-in Y->B function for the hi-hat pedal, because RB3 showed that it could detect the state of the pedal (for I think obvious reasons) during freestyle and I think that would be even more awesome than having to program it in your drum brain.

    LoopyChew said:

    I would presume so. It's kind of sad to me that there's no built-in Y->B function for the hi-hat pedal, because RB3 showed that it could detect the state of the pedal (for I think obvious reasons) during freestyle and I think that would be even more awesome than having to program it in your drum brain.

    And because there isn't @LoopyChew, I really don't understand the purpose of a hi-hat pedal in Rock Band.
    There isn't at the moment. If you have it on your drums, then it will essentially function as a second bass pedal. However, Yamaha brains (amongst others) can program individual note values to HHO/HHC, so on my setup, for example, I can get the hi-hat to work as Y or B depending on its position. (However, as previously noted, every single time I close it, it registers as a bass pedal).
  • joseph5185joseph5185 Opening Act
    LoopyChew said:

    LoopyChew said:

    I would presume so. It's kind of sad to me that there's no built-in Y->B function for the hi-hat pedal, because RB3 showed that it could detect the state of the pedal (for I think obvious reasons) during freestyle and I think that would be even more awesome than having to program it in your drum brain.

    LoopyChew said:

    I would presume so. It's kind of sad to me that there's no built-in Y->B function for the hi-hat pedal, because RB3 showed that it could detect the state of the pedal (for I think obvious reasons) during freestyle and I think that would be even more awesome than having to program it in your drum brain.

    And because there isn't @LoopyChew, I really don't understand the purpose of a hi-hat pedal in Rock Band.
    There isn't at the moment. If you have it on your drums, then it will essentially function as a second bass pedal. However, Yamaha brains (amongst others) can program individual note values to HHO/HHC, so on my setup, for example, I can get the hi-hat to work as Y or B depending on its position. (However, as previously noted, every single time I close it, it registers as a bass pedal).
    Sounds a bit inconvenient..
  • LoopyChewLoopyChew Wordsmith
    Ain't it. SPA mentioned a potential fix but I haven't checked my drum brain for it yet. I'm hoping HMX will have it ready for the Jan25 multiplayer patch.
  • LordFlatusLordFlatus Rising Star

    So that I understand this better, you guys are placing a blue (crash) next to your hi-hat for the sake of HMX likes to chart open or closed hi-hat to blue .. so it provides a more realistic feel?

    Because this isn't otherwise a typical set-up... correct?

    Yup, that's what I do. I overlap the blue across the back half of my yellow.
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