Buoyancy -> Lifting up -> Light fare -> Pop-Rock Natural -> Non-electrical -> Acoustic songs? Electromagnetic -> Modern Pop? Resist -> Against other forces -> Against entropy -> Classic Rock/Neo-Classic Rock? Gravitational -> Pulling down -> Sad Songs? Change -> Altered over time -> RBN 1.0 Songs? (Have new Pro Drum charts) Attraction -> Love -> Valentine's Week Songs? Impact -> Powerful Pressure Released on a Mass -> Metal Songs?
I'd say attraction being in there all but confirms a Valentine's week.
I may be the only one not looking forward to the SDRE song/pack. I didn’t buy them the first time around (if they were released on PSN) and after checking all 3 out on YouTube I’ve remembered the reason why - I cant stand that dudes droning voice.
I did find both songs this week to be enjoyable, nether of which I’d heard before - I thought before buying them I’d like Shame more based on the preview, but turns out the opposite with Body Talks being a blast on drums.
... and finally, not a huge fan of the robots with brains season reward heads.
I’m holding out hope it’s not an sdre week but it’s just a week of two or three random rbn rewinds, and this just happens to be the one they put in spotlight.
Maybe change could be a 2 song single artist week where the 2 songs are very different like my BMTH prediction earlier in the thread. Not sure whether there's enough of these kind of changes in the library for a challenge though.
Christmas-themed DLC: nope! the current set of decision makers all seem to be convinced that those kinds of songs will only sell for a few weeks out of the year, and that model just doesn't work out right
It's not like this is just a theory. They've put out Christmas DLC before. They know no one buys it outside of December. They're not not just hypothesizing.
Christmas-themed DLC: nope! the current set of decision makers all seem to be convinced that those kinds of songs will only sell for a few weeks out of the year, and that model just doesn't work out right
It's not like this is just a theory. They've put out Christmas DLC before. They know no one buys it outside of December. They're not not just hypothesizing.
But, like, is anyone buying Three Lives after its first month out? Does Old Dominion have a recurring buying audience that buys monthly in perpetuity? I mean for a *lot* of tracks, seasonally specific or not, the sales will be primarily if not entirely the new release buyers. At least christmas songs are likely to get a second wave of buyers in their second Christmas season. There’s neither a second wave nor a steady buyership for niche releases.
Christmas-themed DLC: nope! the current set of decision makers all seem to be convinced that those kinds of songs will only sell for a few weeks out of the year, and that model just doesn't work out right
It's not like this is just a theory. They've put out Christmas DLC before. They know no one buys it outside of December. They're not not just hypothesizing.
But, like, is anyone buying Three Lives after its first month out? Does Old Dominion have a recurring buying audience that buys monthly in perpetuity? I mean for a *lot* of tracks, seasonally specific or not, the sales will be primarily if not entirely the new release buyers. At least christmas songs are likely to get a second wave of buyers in their second Christmas season. There’s neither a second wave nor a steady buyership for niche releases.
I think it comes down to Rivals again, generally if a DLC release is eligible for a challenge there'll be people who pick it up. You also have the possibility that these modern songs get more popular over time. Meanwhile unless Halloween ends up not existing anymore, Christmas songs will always be limited to November/December.
Christmas-themed DLC: nope! the current set of decision makers all seem to be convinced that those kinds of songs will only sell for a few weeks out of the year, and that model just doesn't work out right
It's not like this is just a theory. They've put out Christmas DLC before. They know no one buys it outside of December. They're not not just hypothesizing.
But, like, is anyone buying Three Lives after its first month out? Does Old Dominion have a recurring buying audience that buys monthly in perpetuity? I mean for a *lot* of tracks, seasonally specific or not, the sales will be primarily if not entirely the new release buyers. At least christmas songs are likely to get a second wave of buyers in their second Christmas season. There’s neither a second wave nor a steady buyership for niche releases.
Same with most current "hit" pop singles. Going to guess once they start losing radio play most people don't care about them lol. Can't say that about 80s and 90s pop...
I may be the only one not looking forward to the SDRE song/pack. I didn’t buy them the first time around (if they were released on PSN) and after checking all 3 out on YouTube I’ve remembered the reason why - I cant stand that dudes droning voice.
I did find both songs this week to be enjoyable, nether of which I’d heard before - I thought before buying them I’d like Shame more based on the preview, but turns out the opposite with Body Talks being a blast on drums.
... and finally, not a huge fan of the robots with brains season reward heads.
SDRE is super fun on drums if I remember correctly. I understand how you feel about the vocals but hopefully you can overlook them.
I believe SDRE didn't have pro drum support so this is a great get. Hopefully we get the other two songs as well.
All 3 would be nice though I think it'll be a variety week. Only Pac-Man Fever and Knifeman of the RBN songs released since May are outside the top 200 in the RBN thread so far.
I think three songs is too perfect a number to miss out on making a pack out of them. If there were two SDRE songs in the RBN, or four or five even, I'd assume it would be a variety week too, but I'm really thinking they might just knock out the three in a pack.
Checking the RBN best-sellers thread, it appears as though all three are within the top 400, which isn't all that bad. I wouldn't be surprised either way, honestly, but I'll keep my money on SDRE 3-pack.
SDRE like Pac Man Fever is iconic and was insanely popular at the time of release. Knifeman really is the only anomaly, only reason I can think for that song being released is that The Bronx was a disc band once, which gives me hope for more Riverboat Gamblers.
Christmas-themed DLC: nope! the current set of decision makers all seem to be convinced that those kinds of songs will only sell for a few weeks out of the year, and that model just doesn't work out right
It's not like this is just a theory. They've put out Christmas DLC before. They know no one buys it outside of December. They're not not just hypothesizing.
And yet, Rocksmith put out "holiday" music this year. I'm not saying I disagree with the decision made by HMX. It seems pretty sound to me.
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Why were Rocksmith customers able to get themed songs, while we keep being told, "nope, never, can't be done"? Isn't is possible that there are SOME songs that would fit the "December Holidays / Winter" theme, but that are played all year long? Or why not offer songs that are so iconic that they would be expected to sell exceptionally well?
It just seems like there's a lack of creativity in saying, "no, that model can't possibly work, we will never sell songs that fit that theme". But it's a very defensible and safe and reasonable-sounding position.
I'm not particularly for or against more Christmas music in RB. There are holiday tracks that I'd want, but probably not any that I'd want more than certain other non-holiday songs.
But that said, isn't it cool that one of the few holiday tracks we have is John Lennon's "Happy Xmas (War is Over)"? A classic like that warrants inclusion.
Maybe Rocksmith has a different business model. Given that they offer more songs every week, it makes more sense for them to offer more niche songs: deep cuts, or less-famous artists, or seasonal DLC. Or maybe it was a bad move for them and that weeks' DLC had a relatively poor Return On Investment for them.
Customers don't care about costs or sales figures or anything like that. They just want what they want when they want it, and will lash out with accusations if they don't get it.
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Buoyancy -> Lifting up -> Light fare -> Pop-Rock
Natural -> Non-electrical -> Acoustic songs?
Electromagnetic -> Modern Pop?
Resist -> Against other forces -> Against entropy -> Classic Rock/Neo-Classic Rock?
Gravitational -> Pulling down -> Sad Songs?
Change -> Altered over time -> RBN 1.0 Songs? (Have new Pro Drum charts)
Attraction -> Love -> Valentine's Week Songs?
Impact -> Powerful Pressure Released on a Mass -> Metal Songs?
I'd say attraction being in there all but confirms a Valentine's week.
"Jane" by Jefferson Starship
Heartache to heartache we stand.
David Bowie- Changes
I did find both songs this week to be enjoyable, nether of which I’d heard before - I thought before buying them I’d like Shame more based on the preview, but turns out the opposite with Body Talks being a blast on drums.
... and finally, not a huge fan of the robots with brains season reward heads.
Can't say that about 80s and 90s pop...
I believe SDRE didn't have pro drum support so this is a great get. Hopefully we get the other two songs as well.
Checking the RBN best-sellers thread, it appears as though all three are within the top 400, which isn't all that bad. I wouldn't be surprised either way, honestly, but I'll keep my money on SDRE 3-pack.
I'm not saying I disagree with the decision made by HMX. It seems pretty sound to me.
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but
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Why were Rocksmith customers able to get themed songs, while we keep being told, "nope, never, can't be done"?
Isn't is possible that there are SOME songs that would fit the "December Holidays / Winter" theme, but that are played all year long? Or why not offer songs that are so iconic that they would be expected to sell exceptionally well?
It just seems like there's a lack of creativity in saying, "no, that model can't possibly work, we will never sell songs that fit that theme". But it's a very defensible and safe and reasonable-sounding position.
I'm not mad. Just disappointed.
But that said, isn't it cool that one of the few holiday tracks we have is John Lennon's "Happy Xmas (War is Over)"? A classic like that warrants inclusion.
Or maybe it was a bad move for them and that weeks' DLC had a relatively poor Return On Investment for them.
Customers don't care about costs or sales figures or anything like that. They just want what they want when they want it, and will lash out with accusations if they don't get it.
"It would sell great! You just hate us!"