Drummer Battle: Neil Peart vs. Keith Moon vs. John Bonham

ByH20ByH20 Opening Act
edited August 2012 in History of Rock
What do you think?

I'm a drummer myself and I would say it's a tie between Moon and Peart.

edit:actually I'm voting for Peart...

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  • HungryfreakHungryfreak Headliner
    edited July 2008
    JukeBoxHero;929972 said:
    I vote for him along side Neil Peart and Bill Bruford. :D (Yeah, I just really got into Atheist today. Only matter of time since I had Cynic's Focus).
    High five! Haha. Speaking of Cynic, Sean Reinert's definitely done some amazing work, too. That entire trinity (Cynic, Atheist, Death) has amazing drummers throughout.
  • guitarguru2112guitarguru2112 Opening Act
    edited July 2008
    All three are great. It was a hard choice, but I had to go tie between Peart and Bonham. Bonham may not have been the entire showcase of Zeppelin, but that does not take back how awesome his drumming was. Bonham never really stuck to the traditional 4:4 beat and he always had variety in his playing. I love Pearts constant change of double-beat and time signitures too. Difficult choice.
  • rickjames284rickjames284 Unsigned
    edited July 2008
    Peart, considerin hes the only one i was lucky to see play live.
  • LimelightLimelight Road Warrior
    edited July 2008
    I've always thought that Peart is probably the most overrated drummer ever. What he does almost always sounds very good, but the number of "holy ****" moments in Peart's drumming are much fewer and far between than Bonham and (especially) Moon. He is very constant, though, and the best of these three at holding a beat. (Ignore the fact that these two gentlemen are dead.)

    Bonham is great, but no as good as Peart. Also kinda overrated.

    Moon, although definitely not what one would call finessed and not being able to hold a beat to save his live (either due to a lack of ability, or, more likely, boredom) is, I think, the best musician. Creatively, he blows almost any drummer out of the water. Only Moon could bash stuff is such a seemingly random manner, and have it all make perfect sense musically. Listen to the opening of Young Man Blues, or the end of Love, Reign O'er Me. If almost anyone else tried to do that, it'd just sound like a guy bashing on a drum set; when Moon did it, every hit sounded intentional and musical.

    I should note that Buddy Rich kicks the living **** out of all three, though, at everything, including Moon-style fills. He could do **** at sixty that half his age couldn't do.
  • RunesmithRunesmith Headliner
    edited July 2008
    Limelight;932931 said:
    I've always thought that Peart is probably the most overrated drummer ever. What he does almost always sounds very good, but the number of "holy ****" moments in Peart's drumming are much fewer and far between than Bonham and (especially) Moon. He is very constant, though, and the best of these three at holding a beat. (Ignore the fact that these two gentlemen are dead.)

    Bonham is great, but no as good as Peart. Also kinda overrated.

    Moon, although definitely not what one would call finessed and not being able to hold a beat to save his live (either due to a lack of ability, or, more likely, boredom) is, I think, the best musician. Creatively, he blows almost any drummer out of the water. Only Moon could bash stuff is such a seemingly random manner, and have it all make perfect sense musically. Listen to the opening of Young Man Blues, or the end of Love, Reign O'er Me. If almost anyone else tried to do that, it'd just sound like a guy bashing on a drum set; when Moon did it, every hit sounded intentional and musical.

    I should note that Buddy Rich kicks the living **** out of all three, though, at everything, including Moon-style fills. He could do **** at sixty that half his age couldn't do.
    This! Well-said. I voted for Keith Moon. To me, his drumming style had the most synergy with the rest of his band members. I always felt like Peart and Bonham were playing against the music, instead of with it.
  • bdrizzle14bdrizzle14 Rising Star
    edited July 2008
  • a21schizoidmana21schizoidman Prog-nosticator
    edited July 2008
    i vote for none, as i said earlier, i vote for the greatest drummer ever, Carl Palmer
  • OppoKazeOppoKaze Opening Act
    edited July 2008
    I gotta give it to Bonham here. Peart and Moon are both very excellent drummers as well, but Bonham wrote some of the groovingest backbeats known to man. Oh, and he can play some arm destroying solos:

    http://youtube.com/watch?v=cRuTcnd8YLU&feature=related

    All three are drum gods for sure though. I'm sure that Peart and Moon are technically better, but I really dig how tasteful Bonham's parts are.
  • LimelightLimelight Road Warrior
    edited July 2008
    OppoKaze;941918 said:
    Moon are technically better, but I really dig how tasteful Bonham's parts are.
    NO. Say what you want about Moon; technicality was NOT his strongsuit. In fact, the reason he was great in the first place was because he gave the finger to technicality.
  • spoonytoothspoonytooth Opening Act
    edited July 2008
    Keith Moon in my opinion is the best drummer. He may not be technically as good as Neil Peart, but I absolutely love his style of drumming. It was so inovative and there has never been anything else anything like it to this day.

    Neil Peart and John Bonham are also two of my favorite drummers as well though, along with Ian Paice.
  • blue_dragonzeroblue_dragonzero Rising Star
    edited July 2008
    RUSH! RUSH! RUSH!

    I am a Rush fanboy, and I approve this message.

    Seriously, Bonham is below Moon and Peart. Being overindulgent it better than sticking with the music, especially for drummers. And Moon and Peart both know that. Bonham doesn't stick out nearly as much as the other two. And it hurts him in the long run...along with $200 tickets.
  • LimelightLimelight Road Warrior
    edited July 2008
    blue_dragonzero;942324 said:
    RUSH! RUSH! RUSH!

    I am a Rush fanboy, and I approve this message.

    Seriously, Bonham is below Moon and Peart. Being overindulgent it better than sticking with the music, especially for drummers. And Moon and Peart both know that. Bonham doesn't stick out nearly as much as the other two. And it hurts him in the long run...along with $200 tickets.
    And the fact that he's dead.
  • blue_dragonzeroblue_dragonzero Rising Star
    edited July 2008
    Limelight;942364 said:
    And the fact that he's dead.
    Not as much the other two though. ;)
  • LimelightLimelight Road Warrior
    edited July 2008
    blue_dragonzero;942404 said:
    Not as much the other two though. ;)
    Que?

    10 char
  • blue_dragonzeroblue_dragonzero Rising Star
    edited July 2008
    Limelight;942495 said:
    Que?

    10 char
    Other two reasons. Sorry. Neil Peart is still alive. :)
  • Rockbandfan23467Rockbandfan23467 Headliner
    edited July 2008
    Ya know that Earthquake in China?


    That was Moon and Bonham drum dueling in Hell.
  • Julio_Strikes_BackJulio_Strikes_Back Headliner
    edited July 2008
    Rockbandfan23467;942583 said:
    Ya know that Earthquake in China?


    That was Moon and Bonham drum dueling in Hell.
    No, they were dueling in heaven. The vibrations of the pads and cymbals broke through the dimension barrier.



    Also the Bonham hate in this thread is saddening.
  • blue_dragonzeroblue_dragonzero Rising Star
    edited July 2008
    Julio_Strikes_Back;942592 said:
    No, they were dueling in heaven. The vibrations of the pads and cymbals broke through the dimension barrier.



    Also the Bonham hate in this thread is saddening.
    It's not hate, it's just a skill difference. By all means Bonham was a great drummer, but he's in between Technicality (Peart) and Music (Moon) without being as good as either at their respective trait.
  • LimelightLimelight Road Warrior
    edited July 2008
    Julio_Strikes_Back;942592 said:
    No, they were dueling in heaven. The vibrations of the pads and cymbals broke through the dimension barrier.



    Also the Bonham hate in this thread is saddening.
    Criticizing and comparing =/= hate. Most of us still consider Bonzo to be one of the best drummers of all time, just not up there with Peart's technical skill or Moon's sheer insanity and musicianship.

    It's like rating the songs on Boston's debut. They are all made of Win and Awesome; it's just that there has to be a last place when one is doing ratings.
  • Rockbandfan23467Rockbandfan23467 Headliner
    edited July 2008
    Julio_Strikes_Back;942592 said:
    No, they were dueling in heaven. The vibrations of the pads and cymbals broke through the dimension barrier.
    No, it was Hell, because it's not Heaven if The Loon is there!
  • LimelightLimelight Road Warrior
    edited July 2008
    Rockbandfan23467;942701 said:
    No, it was Hell, because it's not Heaven if The Loon is there!
    God banned him from Heaven after Moon trashed the harp storage room, then got drunk and painted the Pearly Gates Lilac.
  • Pat V VPat V V Opening Act
    edited July 2008
    Neil Peart all the way.
  • OppoKazeOppoKaze Opening Act
    edited July 2008
    Meh, in my opinion Peart overplays a bit. He's totally impressive, and Moon is awesome because he could play like Animal and still make it sound good, but Bonham is rock-steady. There's something to be said for keeping the beat even when you know you can do crazy fills all the time. He definitely had the talent Peart does, but he had restraint too.
  • Onslaught_feiOnslaught_fei Headliner
    edited July 2008
    I voted Peart because Tomas Haake wasnt an option ;p
  • SteveoKnievoSteveoKnievo Road Warrior
    edited July 2008
  • Mystlyfe77Mystlyfe77 Big Fan
    edited July 2008
    I honestly love all three. This was a very tough choice. Bonham was great for his music, and his beats drove many of the Zep songs. Moon was a total badass, and a lot of stuff is amazing.
    But Neil Peart is awesome. His fills are incredible, he's technically proficient, and it doesn't hurt that he's still alive. My vote goes to Peart.
  • JerryBrudosJerryBrudos Rising Star
    edited July 2008
    moon by far his drumming makes songs really interesting... and i also don't like rush at all so it may be a little bias but pert doesn't seem to add the same life to a song that moon does.
  • RoboEnigmaRoboEnigma Opening Act
    edited July 2008
    If it hasn't been posted already..this poll is a little biased...

    Both Peart and Moon have quite a few songs in Rock Band while Bonham has none, and this is a Rock Band forum.

    So I voted Bonham, that's not why though.
  • PowerBishopPowerBishop Unsigned
    edited July 2008
    I had to vote for Peart as his style is just incredible, with excellent fills, and I saw him live 2 weeks ago which was totally awesome.
    Moon was just too crazy for my taste, and although I like Bonham's drumming it just isn't prominent enough compared to Rush.
    On another note, drumming fans should check out Brann Dailor, from Mastodon. His style is as fluent as Peart's but still has elements of the other two, and although the rest of the music is pretty different from those bands the drumming is superb.
  • LoucifelLoucifel Unsigned
    edited July 2008
    RoboEnigma;948375 said:
    If it hasn't been posted already..this poll is a little biased...

    Both Peart and Moon have quite a few songs in Rock Band while Bonham has none, and this is a Rock Band forum.
    All true, but if you're serious in your voting you've probably listened to quite a few songs by each drummer. If you haven't you can't really argue why you think one drummer is better than the other.

    Anyway, I voted tie Moon/Peart. Both Moon and Peart are very prominent in their drumming (as said before) and you can't help but listen to the drums when hearing one of their songs. I don't get that feeling with any of Bonham's songs. You could argue that it is because Bonham has restraint and doesn't overplay, but restraint isn't what I'm looking for in a drummer.
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