Nicest Men and Biggest Jerks in Rock

Rockbandfan23467Rockbandfan23467 Headliner
edited May 2013 in History of Rock
Who in music is nice/cool, and who's a complete Jerk?
And please say why, 'cause I don't want this thread to be just a list thread. Of course, this will be a list up here, but read through the thread to find reasons behind some (but not all) of these.

Based on things I've heard/read in this thread:

Nice/Cool
Dave Ghrol
John Mellencamp
Chrissie Hynde
Billy Gibbons
Mick Box
Lonnie Jordan
Billy Joel
Joe Satriani
Trent Reznor
The B-52s
Bret Michaels
Pearl Jam
Brian Bell
Shinedown
The Clash
Cheap Trick
Ronnie Van Zant
Steve van Zandt
Meat Loaf
Frank Zappa
Dweezil Zappa
Dee Snider
King Diamond
Slash
Coheed and Cambria
Brad Delp
Tyson Ritter
Toni Kakko
Pursuing Paradise
Red Hot Chilli Peppers
Iron Maiden
Ted Nugent
Alice Cooper
Bon Jovi (The band, not just Jon)
Little Feat
Bob Marley
Eric Burdon
Dan Lilker
Ashwin Sood
Paul Gilberet
Brad Arnold
Scott Ian
Molly Hatchet (Band)
Paul Gilbert
Russell Allen
Red Chord
Protest The Hero
HORSE the Band
Slash
Michael Anthony
Fozzy
Eric Singer
Green Day
Steve Vai
Pete Townshend
Phil Collins
Rick Astley
Atomic Punks
Kitte
Carl Weathersby
Jason Rigenberg
Marty Stuart
Johnny Cash
Waylon Jennings
Everytime I Die
Arjen Lucassen
Kim Gordon
Thurston Moore
Weird Al
Linkin Park
KRS-One
Jesse "The Devil" Hughes
Dennis Lyxzen
Tom Petty
Lori Linstruth
Neal Morse
Pete Trewavas
Devin Townsend
Queen
Steve Flynn
Evile
Andrew W.K.
Rush
The Shins
Jack Black
Chuck Billy
Tom Morello
Michael Jackson
Les Claypool
David Draiman
Jason Landrian
Tony Iommi
John Kay
Fredrik Akesson
Peter Lindgren
Martin Mendez
Tommy Victor
Ted Parsons
Jon Bechdel
J
Sean Yseult
Nergal
Chris Lykins
Machines of Loving Grace
Course of Empire
Cam Stone
Poe
Ronnie James Dio
E
Tommy Walter
Brian Chippendale
Brian Gibson
Rob Zombie
Bill Steer
Jeff Walker
Serj Tankian
Sascha Konietzko
Paul Raven
Trivium
America
Gogol Bordello
Phideaux Xavier
Donovan
David Bowie
Sylosis
Mastodon
Cage The Elephant (Espically while High)
Aliotta-Haynes-Jeremiah
Kerry King
Valient Thor
Rise Against
John Darinelle
Paul Masvidal
Sum41
Joe Trohman
Andy Hurley
John Beck
Robert Smith
KoRn
Deftones
Ike Reilly
Wishbone Ash
Hiroshi Higashi
Makoto Kawabata
Christopher Cross
Daryl Struermer
Kip Winger
Shawn Crahan
Jukebox the Ghost
Chuck Schuldiner
Synyster Gates
Randy Rhodes
"Dimebag" Darrel Abbot
Silversun Pickups
Sammy Hagar
Butch Walker
Henry Rollins
Sunny Day Real Estate

Jerks
Chris Squire
Roger Waters
Robert Fripp
Metallica
John Densmore
Liam and Noel Gallagher
Jim Morrison
Noel Redding
Gaahl
Timo Luttinen
Demonos Sova
G.G. Allen
Manchester Orchestra (Except the Singer)
Courtney Love
Dino Cazares
Prince
Morrisey
Varg Vikernes
1349
DMX
Maria Taylor
Sex Pistols
The Human Abstract
Sebastian Bach
Every Band from the 1st wave of Screamo
Hall & Oates (Hall moreso)
Amanda Marshall
Roger Daltry
Jonny Craig
Mark Lanegan
Katy Perry
Rick Wakeman
Eric Johnson
Tommy Lee
Kid Rock
Iggy Pop
Carlos Denenger
Yngwie Malmsteen
Tom Sholtz
Scott Stapp
John Hartford
Jimmy Page
Buddy Rich
Mariah Carey
John Stamos
Mike Hickey
Peter Cetera
Debbie Harray
David Byrne
Sting
Dave Matthews
Phil Anselmo
Glenn Danzig
Pink Spiders
Frank Turner
Brandon Flowers
Vinnie Vincent
Harry Nillson
Unicorns and Islands
Ritchie Blackmore
John Lennon
Fred Durst
Gene Simmons
Gene Simmons
Gene Simmons
Gene Simmons
and did we mention Gene Simmons?

Mixed
Dave Mustaine
David Lee Roth
Bono
Ted Nuget
Josh Homme
Lisa Loeb
Marilyn Manson
Kurt Cobain
Jon Davis
Corey Taylor
James LaBrie
Mike Patton
Maynard James Keenan
Madonna
Billy Corgan
Bad Brains
Beck
Rivers Cumuo
Wayne Coyne
Radiohead
Bruce Springsteen
Mike Portnoy
Panic at the Disco
Lou Reed
Ozzy Osbourne
Paul McCartney
George Harrison
Ringo Starr

Comments

  • a21schizoidmana21schizoidman Prog-nosticator
    edited August 2008
    Nice:
    Ted Nugent
    Alice Cooper
    Bob Marley
    Eric Burdon

    Jerks:
    Noel Redding
  • InB4LockInB4Lock Opening Act
    edited August 2008
    Nice/Cool
    Everyone in RHCP
    Everyone in Bon Jovi
    Scott Ian of Anthrax

    Jerk
    Fred Durst
  • Tender-SurrenderTender-Surrender Road Warrior
    edited August 2008
    Nice: Brad Delp rest his soul
  • InB4LockInB4Lock Opening Act
    edited August 2008
    Tender-Surrender;1044710 said:
    Nice: Brad Delp rest his soul
    Agreed completely.
  • Rockbandfan23467Rockbandfan23467 Headliner
    edited August 2008
    It would be nice if everyone explained why you chose that person for that catagory.

    Anymore Hit-And-Miss ones?
  • DarkSide247DarkSide247 Road Warrior
    edited August 2008
    Cool/Nice:
    Thom Yorke (Human Rights, Anti-War, Environmentalism, Fair trade, etc.)

    Jerk/Possibly Hit and Miss:
    Marilyn Manson (Riots, Assault, Etc.)
  • WhiffleBallTonyWhiffleBallTony Headliner
    edited August 2008
    back_blows;1044435 said:
    Does Sharon Osbourne count? She's a total b.....
    If I ever meet her, I will punch her in the face for what she did to Maiden at Ozzfest. Shame on her for ruining so many experiences at once.

    Anyway, I would have to say that the whole of Iron Maiden should go in the "Nice/Cool" category. Steve Harris and Bruce Dickinson are really my two musical heroes since they have the "complete package" along with other artists like Frank Zappa.

    Also, put Gaahl in the jerk category. I don't think I really need to explain if you guys know anything about him.
  • HungryfreakHungryfreak Headliner
    edited August 2008
    Rockbandfan23467;1044794 said:
    It would be nice if everyone explained why you chose that person for that catagory.

    Anymore Hit-And-Miss ones?
    You don't need much explanation for Gene Simmons.

    Jim Morrison often came out to his shows drunk and would do things like pull his pants down on stage

    Frank Zappa always seemed like a cool guy. I can say that after reading the Bible (aka The Real Frank Zappa Book)

    Dweezil stayed afterwards at the Zappa Plays Zappa concert. He signed things and spoke to people a bit. He was cool.

    Dee Snider's speech at the PMRC hearings is enough to solidify a place among the cool men in rock.

    King Diamond always seemed like a nice enough person. From interviews, he's always come off to me as a pretty respectable guy in general.
  • a21schizoidmana21schizoidman Prog-nosticator
    edited August 2008
    Hungryfreak;1044843 said:

    Frank Zappa always seemed like a cool guy. I can say that after reading the Bible (aka The Real Frank Zappa Book)

    dont forget his exploits against the PMRC
  • HungryfreakHungryfreak Headliner
    edited August 2008
    a21schizoidman;1044849 said:
    dont forget his exploits against the PMRC
    All contained within said Bible, haha. His speech was awesome. That gave me a hell of a lot of respect for him.
  • schmeankmanschmeankman Headliner
    edited August 2008
    Nice:

    Brad Arnold (Met him)
    Little Feat (Met then at a concert here, very, very nice folks)

    Meanypants:

    Axl
  • a21schizoidmana21schizoidman Prog-nosticator
    edited August 2008
  • DarkSide247DarkSide247 Road Warrior
    edited August 2008
  • RunesmithRunesmith Headliner
    edited August 2008
    DarkSide247;1044827 said:
    Cool/Nice:
    Thom Yorke (Human Rights, Anti-War, Environmentalism, Fair trade, etc.)

    Jerk/Possibly Hit and Miss:
    Marilyn Manson (Riots, Assault, Etc.)
    Definately agree with these. Marilyn leans more towards nice or hit-and-miss than jerk, though, in my opinion. I enjoyed reading the article he wrote about the Columbine shooting. He's far more intelligent than people give him credit for.
    a21schizoidman;1044468 said:
    with debbie and david its the way they disbanded their bands
    debbie wont even talk with the rest of Blondie and snubbed them at the HoF
    Ah, that's true. I'd probably place them under hit-or-miss, though, since none of us are really sure about what when on behind the scenes when Blondie and the Talking Heads broke up. I do know that David Byrne is adamantly against reuniting the original Heads line-up, according to Jerry Harrison.
  • DarkSide247DarkSide247 Road Warrior
    edited August 2008
    Runesmith;1044882 said:
    Definately agree with these. Marilyn leans more towards nice or hit-and-miss than jerk, though, in my opinion. I enjoyed reading the article he wrote about the Columbine shooting. He's far more intelligent than people give him credit for.
    Hm, got a point.

    Nice:
    Paul Gilbert (Funny, and seems like an overly nice guy to hang out with)

    Hit and Miss:
    Kurt Cobain (Seems like he'd be a cool guy to be around, but he has his moments)
  • a21schizoidmana21schizoidman Prog-nosticator
    edited August 2008
    Nice: all of Molly Hatchet (met them, great guys)
    Russell Allen (from Symphony X) he was just really in with the crowd, very upbeat and just seemed like a very nice guy
  • back_blowsback_blows Washed Up
    edited August 2008
    WhiffleBallTony;1044833 said:
    If I ever meet her, I will punch her in the face for what she did to Maiden at Ozzfest. Shame on her for ruining so many experiences at once.

    Anyway, I would have to say that the whole of Iron Maiden should go in the "Nice/Cool" category. Steve Harris and Bruce Dickinson are really my two musical heroes since they have the "complete package" along with other artists like Frank Zappa.

    Also, put Gaahl in the jerk category. I don't think I really need to explain if you guys know anything about him.
    Recently, the Gaahl-fronted Gorgoroth won a case against Regain Records for releasing a live album while the band was split up. That guy seriously needs to get his act together and forget about Gorgoroth.

    On the topic of ***wholes, I'm pretty sure Varg Vikernes takes the cake. You know for murder, church burnings, etc.
  • Rev0lverRev0lver Road Warrior
    edited August 2008
    awesome, but i've never met him: marilyn manson(i hate his music though)
    hit and miss: maynard james keenan
    bitch: katy perry
  • back_blowsback_blows Washed Up
    edited August 2008
    DarkSide247;1044872 said:
    Jerks:
    G.G. Allen
    To be fair, he was insane.
  • WhiffleBallTonyWhiffleBallTony Headliner
    edited August 2008
    back_blows;1044918 said:
    Recently, the Gaahl-fronted Gorgoroth won a case against Regain Records for releasing a live album while the band was split up. That guy seriously needs to get his act together and forget about Gorgoroth.
    Yes, he really does. He really gives a bad name to metal musicians and fans and the media uses people like him to make us all seem like asses. **** them all.
  • Chief StubbsChief Stubbs Road Warrior
    edited August 2008
    Nice:
    The guys in Red Chord(who?). My friend was buying some Red Chord stuff at Mayhem Festival and they were there signing **** and gave him an extra free t-shirt and talked **** with him and he walked out with a whole bunch of signed crap.
  • Rev0lverRev0lver Road Warrior
    edited August 2008
    oh yeah, almost forgot, the guys in Protest The Hero are some of the nicest i've met, and The Human Abstract are mostly jerks. HORSE The Band is cool as well.
  • clashcityrocker10clashcityrocker10 Headliner
    edited August 2008
    i'd say that the sex pistols could be in the jerk category
    now i actually like the pistols as a band, but i've heard that they could be some of the most stuck-up and nasty people ever when they went to their live shows
    i think pete townshend should be classified as one of the nice guys of rock, because he is active in many charities
  • AxlVanHagarAxlVanHagar Road Warrior
    edited August 2008
    Speaking from personal experience

    Nice

    Slash - Met him three times. First time during the early days pre- Appetite Relase or shortly thereafter. In any case they were still nobodies as the album stiffing for the most part sales wise. Met him at briefly at a club show. He was very cool. Crossed paths with him again years later on the first leg of the Illusion tour. Again he was very approachable and down to Earth. Last time I met him was during the Snakepit tour. Hung out with him in his dressing room for a coule of hours before a gig in Toronto. In every case I've found him to be a very humble, polite, soft spoken individual who genuinely appreciates his fans.

    Alice Cooper - In my experiences a classy guy who always takes time for fans and appreciates them.

    Michael Anthony (Van Halen)- Very polite though it was obvious he wished he hadn't been recognized as he had his family with him. This was during the 5150 tour and he had taken some time to see Niagara Falls. I was working for the Parks Commission at the time and spotted him and quietly said hello and chatted with briefly. After it was obvious the fans that began mobbibg him were not going to leave him alone I arranged for our Parks Police to escort him out of the area which he greatly appreciated.

    Madonna - Met her at the Falls as well while I worked down there. She was on the Blonds Ambition Tour at the time and was there very early one morning and approached me to ask the standard tourist questions as well as if I knew anything about the Marilyn Monroe movie Niagara that was filmed there. I did and took her to one of the old film locations. She was very cool and much prettier in person. She offered to put me on the guest list for her show that night but sadly I was unable to make it.

    Everyone in the band Fozzy - I cant say enough about just how great the whole band was to my nephew who was 11 at the time.It was his first concert and we were first row. Rich Ward the guitarist played up to him all night as did the whole band from time to time. Rich even let me sing his parts to Eat The Rich(Motorhead cover not the Aerosmith song of the same name). End of the show during the encore Rich pulled Carter up on stage and let him wear his guitar, then put him on his shoulders and ran around the stage allowing the little guy to strum maniacally away on the Les Paul. It was great! The capper was Chris Jericho taking Carter by the hand to center stage in the spotlight and headbanging with him for the finale. Class act those guys, can't say enough about them. Killer band too IMO.

    Bon Jovi - The band was a little burned out from another long tour but still took the time to shake some hands, pose for pics and sign autographs despite being in a hurry.

    Eric Singer (KISS/Alice Cooper) - Eric was very nice and quite funny. Met him in the Falls a couple years ago when Cooper played the local Casino. Cool dude.

    Dweezil Zappa/Steve Vai - Both hung around for quite some after a Zappa Plays Zappa show just sitting on the edge of the stage and talking with fans, taking pics etc.

    Billie Joe Armstong/Tres Cool (Greenday) - Met both of them early on the Dookie tour outside the club they were playing that night. As it happens the club is attached to a coffee shop so my buddy, Billie and Tres all went for a coffee and shot the breeze for about an hour.

    Axl Rose - Was surprisingly nice when i very briefly encountered him on the ill fated 2002 tour. Not overly chatty and didn't really stop moving but slowed his pace down shook hands and talked as he walked. No complaints form me.

    Douchbags

    Sebastian Bach - For a while I was a working studio musician and was hired to do some stuff with Bach. Without going into great detail Baz is a dick. He's stil convinced it's 1986 and he's God's gift to metal. Still a fan and I think he's one of the best singers bar none and his new album is killer!But it was a painful experience that I wound up quitting. Only time I ever quit on a contract.

    Hall & Oates - They played a show at one of our local summer concert series and were both dicks. Refused to interact with any of the fans that came out and hid n their trailer abusing the staff running the show.

    Amanda Marshall - see above for Hall & Oates excpet she eventually came out of her trailer after the stage manager and myself wiped the ground with rags before she walked on it. True story!:mad:

    Hit and miss from talking to friends who met them

    Dave Mustaine and David Lee Roth - I've had friends that have met both. Mustaine was very rude and bitchy to one friend but very appreciative of another. Both met him at different times. Roth was an arrogant ass that hadf no time for one buddy as he was too busy with groupies but the following year another buddy met him and Roth was super cool and invited my friend to a party he was going to. To this day he cites that as one of the best nights of his life.
  • InB4LockInB4Lock Opening Act
    edited August 2008
    Nice:
    Pete Townshend
    Rick Astley *hehe*
    Phil Collins

    Mean/Grumpy old men
    Roger Daltry
  • HungryfreakHungryfreak Headliner
    edited August 2008
    AxlVanHagar;1045087 said:
    Dweezil Zappa/Steve Vai - Both hung around for quite some after a Zappa Plays Zappa show just sitting on the edge of the stage and talking with fans, taking pics etc.
    I wish I was at the tour with Steve Vai. Made it to the second one. Still great. I unfortunately lost the ticket I got signed by him; guess this just gives me an excuse to see him again, though, haha.

    Amazing how many people you've met. The only famous person in general I've seen in a scenario outside of a concert was Roberto Benigni (star of Life is Beautiful). He was eating dinner two tables away from us in Italy, but we didn't want to disturb him.
  • a21schizoidmana21schizoidman Prog-nosticator
    edited August 2008
    Nice: Carl Weathersby (from stories my dad told bout when he saw them, and plus he worked with his bassist)

    Jerk: Rick Wakeman (kinda assholish with some stuff he's done)
  • JukeBoxHeroJukeBoxHero Headliner
    edited August 2008
    AxlVanHagar;1045087 said:


    Madonna - Met her at the Falls as well while I worked down there. She was on the Blonds Ambition Tour at the time and was there very early one morning and approached me to ask the standard tourist questions as well as if I knew anything about the Marilyn Monroe movie Niagara that was filmed there. I did and took her to one of the old film locations. She was very cool and much prettier in person. She offered to put me on the guest list for her show that night but sadly I was unable to make it.

    Everyone in the band Fozzy - I cant say enough about just how great the whole band was to my nephew who was 11 at the time.It was his first concert and we were first row. Rich Ward the guitarist played up to him all night as did the whole band from time to time. Rich even let me sing his parts to Eat The Rich(Motorhead cover not the Aerosmith song of the same name). End of the show during the encore Rich pulled Carter up on stage and let him wear his guitar, then put him on his shoulders and ran around the stage allowing the little guy to strum maniacally away on the Les Paul. It was great! The capper was Chris Jericho taking Carter by the hand to center stage in the spotlight and headbanging with him for the finale. Class act those guys, can't say enough about them. Killer band too IMO.
    Those are some awesome experiences Axl.

    Now for my list of nice people.

    Alex Lifeson: Judging from the interviews and seeing Rush live, he seem like a pretty cool guy.

    Atomic Punks: These guys were cool for being a cover band and all. Let people take group shots after the show and stayed for a good half hour.
  • AxlVanHagarAxlVanHagar Road Warrior
    edited August 2008
    JukeBoxHero;1045154 said:
    Those are some awesome experiences Axl.

    Now for my list of nice people.

    Alex Lifeson: Judging from the interviews and seeing Rush live, he seem like a pretty cool guy.

    Atomic Punks: These guys were cool for being a cover band and all. Let people take group shots after the show and stayed for a good half hour.
    Thanks bro, I've just been lucky with right place right time sometimes.

    Agreed on the Atomic Punks, those guys rock! And really great guys to boot, Ralph was a bit of a buddy for awhile. Those same guys also do a really good Rush tribute band as well as Metal Skool/Steel Panther.
  • JukeBoxHeroJukeBoxHero Headliner
    edited August 2008
    AxlVanHagar;1045172 said:
    Thanks bro, I've just been lucky with right place right time sometimes.

    Agreed on the Atomic Punks, those guys rock! And really great guys to boot, Ralph was a bit of a buddy for awhile. Those same guys also do a really good Rush tribute band as well as Metal Skool/Steel Panther.
    Cool I didn't know they do a Rush tribute band, I'll have to check it out.
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