• Re: Rock Band VR's Final Setlist and First DLC Reveal [Discussion Thread]

    Listened to "To My Romeo," and I will say it's an alright song. It's definitely one of the better indie songs in the game. It's rather catchy, and reminds me a bit of 2000's pop-rock, which is something I enjoy.
  • Re: Rock Band VR's Final Setlist and First DLC Reveal [Discussion Thread]

    I've been putting off listening to this setlist, so now I'm just gonna listen to it and react to it. I'll right my reactions to each and every song, though for the export/past DLC stuff I probably won't need to re-listen to those again to form an opinion, so I'll mostly be listening to the new stuff.

    Aerosmith - Walk This Way - This probably wouldn't have been my pick for an on-disc Aerosmith song, but it is fun on guitar, so I get it. I think think I would have picked something else, perhaps "Sweet Emotion," but that's just subjective taste. Objectively, this is a pretty big song with an iconic guitar line, so it makes sense.

    Against the Current - Running with the Wild Things - I mostly like this one; I've got a weak spot for woman-lead, punky pop like this. The only thing I'm not a fan of is the "oohs" in the main riff; I've noticed these kinds of "oohs" in a lot of modern music, and I just personally don't like it. That said, otherwise it's a fun song that's reminiscent of early Paramore.

    Alice In Chains - Man in the Box - This song was really fun on guitar in RB2 (at least for an easier song), so it should work well here as well. It's also a rather good song, heavy enough to get one going, but also catchy and fun to listen to.

    Arctic Horror - Black Seas - I've already listened and posted about this song, and I stand by what I said. I imagine people who aren't into this kind of metal are gonna hate it, much like they did the likes of Visions, Dead Black, and even Red Lottery back in the early GH days. However, I like it a lot, just like I like those songs. (Also note it's not quite as heavy as Visions or black metal-influenced as Dead Black, it does remind me of Red Lottery a lot, though)

    AudioDamn! - Lights Out - These vocals just don't do it for me; I'm just not a fan of these sorts of indie vocals, and the fact that I can sense an Adam Lavigne influence isn't helping any. That said, the rest of the instrumentation is pretty good and catchy. The vocals kind of drag it down for me, so I'm left with a "meh."

    Avenged Sevenfold - Beast and the Harlot - I'm glad they went with an older Avenged Sevenfold song for this, and this is a good choice. It was great on GH2, it was fun on RB3 (even if I've learned over the years that the chart isn't all that great), so I imagine it'll be fun here, too.

    Band of Horses - Casual Party - Band of Horses isn't my thing, sadly. I realize there's some hype here over this band, but this just isn't my thing. I'm not a fan of the vocals, or the production; something feels sort of "empty" here for me. Still, cool for fans of this band!

    Basement - Promise Everything - I dig this. I like the slight punk/emo influence, and this is the sort of indie production I actually like; sort of old-sounding, but still having enough energy to it to get one going. I hope this one comes over to RB4.

    The Black Cheers - (You're) Breakin' Up - Punk in my Rock Band game? What is this, RB2? :p In all seriousness, though, this is pretty cool, has a 90's skate-punk sort of feel to it that I rather enjoy. Let's hope this makes it over to RB4.

    The Black Keys - Gold On the Ceiling - I'm surprised we don't have this in the main series already. It's the band's biggest song, as far as I know, and we already have a lot of other Black Keys songs. That said... this song isn't my kind of thing. I just find The Black Keys boring in general, and this song isn't any different. I like poppy things, but it's just something about the mix of poppy songwriting and intentionally-lo-fi production that sort of just brings me out of it. Still, this is a big get for the series, and I really do hope it makes it over to RB4, because it's a big song and it'd suck to see fans of it be left out in the cold.

    Blink-182 - Bored to Death - I've never really been that big into Blink-182, especially their more modern, alt-rock-influenced sound. That said, this song is pretty alright, the chorus sounds pretty cool and the drums are pretty tight. I really hope this makes it to RB4, because the drums sound like they'd be really challenging.

    Blondfire - True Confessions - This song is okay, nothing that I'd listen to on my free time or anything, though. It'd probably be fun in RB4, though the song itself is sort of forgettable. It's got some nice medleys, but they do sound like a lot of other pop-rock songs I've heard. I do like the echoey, spacey atmosphere, though.

    Blondie - One Way or Another - Not really a song I'd have picked for a guitar-only game, but it's a very well-known song, and it's still pretty catchy. So on that regard, this is a good inclusion.

    Bon Jovi - Livin' On a Prayer - I used to really like this sort of cheesy glam-rock ballad stuff. Now I've kind of grown out of it, and find stuff like this rather dull to listen to. That said, it's a great get, since it's got iconic guitar lines, and was rather fun in RB2.

    Carrie Underwood - Church Bells - My taste in country is very limited, leaning more towards stuff like Johnny Cash and the more rock-influenced stuff from the 90's and early-mid 2000's. That said, this should be fun on guitar, and I do sort of like it; probably won't go out of my way to buy it if it comes to RB4, but it's alright.

    Catfish and the Bottlemen - Postpone - This song's pretty good, actually. I wasn't really sold on this band with the song that was RB4 DLC, but this song is pretty alright. It's catchy, and at the same time has just enough of a pop-punk influence to add some energy. This is the sort of high-energy indie stuff I actually like.

    Coldplay - Birds - I can't help but feel this is an odd pick for a Coldplay song, especially for a guitar-centric game, given how especially on this same album there are songs with more guitar leads in them. Not really my favorite off this album, sadly.

    David Bowie - Suffragate City - This song's pretty alright; probably not my first Bowie choice, but it's a classic from RB1, so not complaining. On the one hand, I'm thinking getting one of Bowie's big hits we don't have yet, such as "Starman," would be cool. On the other hand, I'd rather have that on RB4, so fair enought :p

    Disturbed - Down With the Sickness - MEMES! *ahem* Anyways, not at all surprised to see this one here again. I'd personally would have gone for either Inside the Fire or Indestructible, but this one is their biggest song, so it makes more sense from an objective standpoint.

    DragonForce - Through the Fire and Flames - Kinda figured we'd get this song when they showed the Rock Band VR trailer with DragonForce (and also shoulda saw it being this one when they did the re-charts for this and OGAP). That said, we've seen this song a billion times already, and would have seen a song not in Rock Band already, such as Heroes of Our Time or The Game. Here's hoping we get more DragonForce as RB4 DLC.

    Dream Theater - Pull Me Under - Kinda surprised it took us this long to get Dream Theater's biggest song, though honestly we already have "On the Backs of Angels," which is almost the same song :p I liked this song in Guitar Hero: World Tour, and do hope to see it as RB4 DLC, though.
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    Europe - The Final Countdown - Freaking love this song; it's goofy and cheesy, and yet at the same time is actually pretty awesome still. Here's hoping to see it as a Rewind track.

    Fleetwood Mac - Go Your Own Way - This song was pretty fun in RB2, so not too surprised to see it here, too. Fleetwood Mac is sort of hit-and-miss with me (I actually ironically prefer Stevie Nicks solo), but this one is actually one of my favorites of theirs.

    Foo Fighters - Everlong - This is going to be a very controversial opinion, but... this song is pretty boring. I get it's a big hit, but it just meanders into verse and chorus without really making a big impact (at least to me, who listens to lots of stuff that people may consider "too f***ing noisy"). I personally would have gone with "Monkey Wrench," since that one at least has iconic guitar lines and is more high-energy.

    Ghost - Cirice Speaking of controversial opinions, I'm not usually a fan of Ghost's sound. In fact, I find it weird that metalheads tend to hail this band as this amazing, earth-shattering band, when most of their music sounds like it was slowed down and turned into pop music (in fact, listening to them at double speed is actually much more fun). THAT SAID, this song has really grown on me a bit, and I've grown to like it the same way I like "Kiss from a Rose:" namely, I know it's a rather sappy, overly-dramatic love ballad, but it's very catchy and fun. So here's hoping to see it in RB4.

    The Go-Go's - We Got the Beat - This also probably wouldn't have been a pick I'd make for a strictly guitar-driven game, but then again I guess every game needs it's easier songs. That said, this song is pretty good, so there's that.

    Green Day - Holiday - Probably not what I'd pick from Green Day for a guitar-driven game (even if it's one of their biggest, most well-known songs), mostly because at least I associated this song more with it's catchy vocals than it's guitar line (even if it's guitar line is also catchy). That said, it's still a pretty great song, even if something like "Brain Stew/Jaded" would have technically been a better fit for a game highlighting guitar (at least in my opinion).

    The Hunna - You & Me - Eh. It's not the worst indie-pop I've ever heard, but also not something I'd ever listen to on my own free time. It's pretty forgettable and slightly annoying, honestly, even if it at least sounds like it'd be a fun beginner song on guitar.

    Jimmy Eat World - The Middle - Now this is a good choice for a guitar-centric game. It's a pop-influenced alternative song still, but it's got a fun guitar line and a pretty challenging (and even iconic) guitar solo. This is another one I hope to see as a Rewind track.

    Joan Jett and the Blackhearts - Bad Reputation - Probably won't be the most fun guitar song, but it's very popular, and a damn good song to boot. I much prefer punk Joan Jett over pop-anthem Joan Jett (looking at you, "I Love Rock and Roll").

    Kaleo - Glass House - This sort of reminds me of a mix of "Ain't Messin' 'Round" by Gary Clark Jr. and "Are You Gonna Be My Girl?" by Jet. It's alright, even if the chorus sort of does the "ba ba da" sort of thing I'm not a big fan of. Guitar sounds like it'll be fun, so it'd be cool to see as RB4 DLC.

    The Killers - When You Were Young - Honest question, why is it that so many guitar-centric games have this song with more keys in it than guitar? GH3 had it, GH:L had it, and now this game. The Killers have more guitar-centric songs out there ("Mr. Brightside" has a very well-known guitar line, and "Somebody Told Me" is pretty fun in RB4. There are no RB4 repeats in this setlist, which is kinda weird when you think about it), so it's kinda odd to see this one used yet again, when if anything the vocals and keyboard lines are much more prominent through most of the song.

    Kings of Leon - Use Somebody - Another song I'm surprised we haven't seen in the main series yet. We have other Kings of Leon songs, yet this, arguably their most well-known song, isn't here yet. I imagine it's probably not the most fun thing on the planet to play, but the vocals do sound like they'd be fun to sing, so here's hoping for it on RB4.

    Maroon 5 - Maps - Not the worst modern Maroon 5 song I've heard (it certainly ain't no "Sugar") though I'm still not entirely a fan of it (especially the "you's" in the chorus, those slides are kind of grating). My question is, why haven't we gotten "Harder to Breathe" yet? Sure, it's older, but I feel that'd fit both a guitar-centric game, and a band-centric game much better than a lot of these newer Maroon 5 songs.

    Megadeth - Hanger 18 - This one is great on guitar, so makes perfect sense to put here. The thing is, a lot of Megadeth songs are great on guitar, so it's odd to see a GH2 repeat here (even if it's one of their more well-known songs). I personally probably would have gone for "Tornado of Souls," "Five Magics" or "Rust In Peace... Polaris" from this album, though again this is probably the biggest song on this album. At the very least it isn't newer Megadeth, so I'm happy for that.

    Mumford & Sons - I Will Wait - I'm not really a fan of this band at all; I'm not really a fan of the sort of mix of bluegrass and indie that they do. Weirdly enough, "The Wolf" is the one song I've heard from them that I like at all, even if I only like that one a little bit. However, this song sounds like it'd be rather challenging on guitar, so I get why it's here in this guitar-centric game. I'm hoping for an RB4 port of this one, if only because banjo on 5-lane guitar is usually rather fun, even if usually also rather challenging.

    Nirvana - Smells Like Teen Spirit - Another really good pick for this game, considering how big this song is, and how fun it is on guitar. Don't know if I can really add anything to that, it's a great song and should be fun to play with the new mechanics.

    Oasis - Champagne Supernova - Lots of people are excited for this song, but IDK, I'm kinda left bored. I get that it's meant to be the big, epic build-up of an album closer, but despite actually having a sense of build-up, I just got kinda bored with this one. Can't really explain it, since it has elements that I really like, but something about the production just feels a bit underwhelming to me. It also doesn't help that it's the same verse and chorus over and over. I guess chalk this under my list of "controversial opinions." That said, I do hope it comes to RB4, because it sounds fun on guitar, and it's definitely a big song.

    OneRepublic - Counting Stars - Weirdly enough, I find myself liking my song a little; not a lot, mind you, but it's better than a lot of radio pop. It's rather catchy, and sounds fun on vocals. I'm hoping this one makes it over to RB4.

    Paramore - Ain't It Fun - This song is very, very okay. It's not the worst song in the world, but it certainly isn't the best. Post-reunion Paramore just bores me in general. I like their more punk-influenced stuff much more than this sort of light pop-rock. That said, this should be a good inclusion for fans of post-reunion Paramore, and I hope it comes to RB4 so those folks can have this available.
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    PART 3

    Parks - Sweater Weather - *totes not "Sweater Weather" by The Neighborhood* I actually do like this better than the more well-known The Neighborhood song. That said, it's also far from my favorite song on this setlist. It's fast-paced and fun indie, sure, but parts of it also remind me of the sort of stock music used in indie comedy movie trailers (you know, the light, xylophone-heavy elevator music-type-stuff that isn't really all that exciting). That said, it'd be cool to see on RB4 as well.

    Pearl Jam - Alive - This was one of the most fun guitar songs in RB2, so not at all surprised to see it here, too (I know I've said that already about another song, but same applies, so eh). Pretty much most of the Ten album would have been great, and I'd have preferred either Garden or Black if I were getting this game, but Alive is also much more well known, so it makes perfect sense.

    Pierce the Veil - Circles - The intro scared me, because it almost sounded like it was gonna be crunkcore, but... Pierce the Veil is skate punk now? Didn't see that coming. I dig this, actually, I like the 2000's skate punk/emo feel to this. This is quite the different direction than I would have expected from this band, but I actually appreciate it, since I missed this sort of sound.

    The Pretty Reckless - Heaven Knows - The Pretty Reckless is one of those bands I should like, but for whatever reason I can't really get into it. Like, woman-lead hard rock with a sort of alt-rock edge sounds like something I should be into, but for whatever reason I just can't get into it. It's not really bad, but it's sort of middle-of-the-road. This song oddly reminds me of old Guns 'n' Roses in parts, though others sound weirdly twangy. I get the appeal I guess, but this is the sort of hard-rock that I'm just sort of "meh" about.

    Rage Against the Machine - Testify - Rather odd choice for this, seeing how this song is mostly inconsistent tremolo picking that isn't really all that fun to play. I'd have picked "Killing in the Name" if we were to have a repeat, though they still have big songs that have yet to be seen in Rock Band, such as "Renegades of Funk" and "Know Your Enemy." This song is still pretty good musically, but for a guitar-centric song, it just seems like an odd choice.

    Ramones - I Wanna Be Sedated - Probably wouldn't be most people's first choice for a Ramones song, but it's an alright beginner's song. I imagine this one would be made a bit more fun with the new mechanics, so it works out. Song itself is good, though I'll admit The Ramones are one of those bands that I like their contributions to music more than the actual music itself.

    Rush - Freewill (Vault Edition) - This is probably my favorite of the whole setlist. Please, PLEASE bring this to RB4! I need to play this on 5-lane guitar.

    The Shelters - Rebel Heart - Not my thing. I don't know how to put it without sounding overly critical, but I really, really find this sort of cheesy, psuedo-bluesy, twangy indie rather annoying to listen to. The vocals are also pretty annoying, invoking the sort of baby-like accent and almost redneck-like delivery that so many indie singers do nowdays that drives me absolutely bonkers.

    Spirit Kid - To My Romeo - I can't find this specific song, so gonna have to wait until it either comes out on their Bandcamp, on other streaming services, or whenever someone uploads a video of the song in-game. I can't be arsed to just listen to another song by this band, since I don't want to get the wrong idea if I listen to some older song that doesn't represent the sound of this one very well.

    The Starting Line - Quitter - I'm liking this theme of 2000's-sounding pop-punk-like-stuff. Even if this one seems rather light and poppy, and even has the kind of "oohs" common in indie pop, I still dig it. It's got a fun sort of energy about it that makes it easy to listen to. Hoping this one also makes it to RB4.

    Stone Temple Pilots - Plush - I actually rather like this song, and it's one of my favorites of RB3, despite usually liking Stone Temple Pilot's more aggressive stuff.

    Survivor - Eye of the Tiger - This is a rather big song with an iconic guitar line (sorry I keep using the word "iconic" as if I were an Ubisoft employee, I just don't know what other words to say for these really well-known and well-liked things), so makes sense to include it.

    Switchfoot - Float - Oh Jebus, this can't be the same Switchfoot that wrote "Meant to Live," can it? This song is... well, it's everything I dislike about modern radio indie. The production is "too" polished while simultaneously feeling sort of empty, the vocals are weak and amateurish, the songwriting is more poppy than a lot of pop music, and it just feels so insincere to me. It feels like a bunch of folks getting together and just trying to emulate their favorite funk, blues, and electronic artists all at once, without any of the soul of any of it. So this is a hard pass from me.

    The Temper Trap - Alive - Having two songs on-disc called "Alive" may be a bit confusing for some folks :p This song is alright, I like the sort of spacey feel to it, and the minor key here gives it a bit more of an "edge" that works well here. Kind of odd to see here, though, seeing how as far as I can tell, the song is actually more bass-driven than guitar-driven, especially during the bridge. Here's hoping it comes to RB4 as well.

    Tracy Bonham - Mother Mother - Had an "oh that song!" moment here. The song sort of starts off rather slow, but the chorus builds up rather well, and I love the part where she switches between soulful chorus singing and sudden angry screaming (reminds me of an alt-rock version of the surf-music-and-then-suddenly-grindcore section of "Danger in the Manger" by iwrestledabearonce).

    Twin Atlantic - I Am Alive - This song is mostly pretty cool, but the vocals sound just a tad too soft during the choruses, ruining what is otherwise a surprisingly catchy, yet heavy alt-rock song. The bridge was also a bit disappointing, seeing how the rest of the song is built around this "big" sounding production. Still sounds like a fun song to play, though, so hoping to see it in RB4.

    Van Halen - Panama - This song is very meh. It was very meh in RB4, and I was wondering why this instead of something like "Jump" or "Hot for Teacher." I guess it's a very popular song and all, but IDK, something about it just sort of bores me that I can't put into words. It's not a terrible song or anything, it's just sort of middle-of-the-road.

    Weezer - Say It Ain't So - Probably wouldn't have been my first Weezer choice (that would have been "My Name Is Jonas") but I get it's a big song. Big enough to warrant a stigma amongst RB1 players with it being picked over and over and over. It's still a pretty good song, though.

    The Wind and the Wave - Grand Canyon - Maybe a bit too "indie" for me, but it's at least got some fun energy about it. Maybe this is one of those songs that'd grow on me over time. Sounds like a fun full-band song, so this one may be fun to have on RB4.

    The Who - Won't Get Fooled Again - This one's a pretty good inclusion, though with the long break with just synth and the drum solo, I probably wouldn't have thought this to be my personal first choice for a guitar-only game. Still an awesome song that definitely fits as on-disc material to a music game.
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    So overall, I'd say this setlist is rather solid. There's quite a bit I'd love to see on RB4, though maybe it's a bit heavy on the indie stuff. There's also a lot of variety here despite that, including some good metal picks, some good prog rock picks, and finally some freaking punk rock. I'm hoping to see this stuff come over to RB4.

    (Also I wasn't expecting this post to take so many parts, geeze. Guess that's what happens when you try to write a paragraph for 60 different songs)